Malaysia Airlines Plane
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I expect we'll find out eventually. It's just so very tragic for all the relatives, the not knowing. Especially given some of their phones have been ringing and people have been showing as being 'online'. Strange.
Hopefully they're alive and punching a sequence of numbers into a computer somewhere.
(Ps. Tim, you're not doing a great job of blocking me, posting on my thread)
Hopefully they're alive and punching a sequence of numbers into a computer somewhere.
(Ps. Tim, you're not doing a great job of blocking me, posting on my thread)
last week there were reports of a North Korea missile test that missed a Chinese passenger jet by 7 minutes, for what its worth maybe there is something to consider there - an unfortunate accident that was waiting to happen, but then again no debris? its all very strange. what matters though is that the families of all those involved get closure.
I seen somewhere that the plane changed altitude and direction? But there was no distress call? Which brings me back to either massive electrical problems, or a pilot with problems.
From the location they have plotted loss of communication I can't see the plane flying west and not being picked up on radar. I'm sure there's more to this than we are being told at this point.
From the location they have plotted loss of communication I can't see the plane flying west and not being picked up on radar. I'm sure there's more to this than we are being told at this point.
Really weird. I'm thinking along the lines of a rapid decompression at altitude due to some failure in the pressure fuselage. This would cause everybody on board to lose consciousness very quickly succumbing to hypoxia - a lack of oxygen. This may explain why there was no radio comms from the pilots.
The aircraft would just continue flying until it ran out of fuel and eventually just fly into the sea. Although if this was the case, the aircraft's autopilot would have maintained its original flight path details and so it's progress could be monitored and dead reckoning would have it somewhere along it's intended flight path.
Also, when it hit the sea, you would expect it's Emergency Location Beacon to transmit continuously on the emergency distress frequencies which would be picked up by orbiting SARSAT satellites, three fixes of which would be enough to pinpoint a reasonably accurate datum to centre an 'expanding circle' search on.
If it had blown up at altitude, debris would have been spread far and wide. My crew was the first on scene at the terrible Air India 747 terrorist explosion over the Atlantic, west of Ireland in the early 80's which was blown up by Sikh extremist's at altitude. The appalling aftermath was evident all around the ocean, there is a lot of material that doesn't sink, interior panels, soundproofing, foam, rows of seats and apart from the obvious, all their luggage and personal effects contained therein.
It could be that there was a total systems failure on board which caused the autopilot to fail along with a cabin pressure relief valve, causing the decompression and allowing the aircraft to navigate its own path until it hit the water. This may explain why it can't be found as it may be nowhere near where it's expected to be. Although I would still expect the Emergency Locator Beacon to be picked up by satellite.
The aircraft would just continue flying until it ran out of fuel and eventually just fly into the sea. Although if this was the case, the aircraft's autopilot would have maintained its original flight path details and so it's progress could be monitored and dead reckoning would have it somewhere along it's intended flight path.
Also, when it hit the sea, you would expect it's Emergency Location Beacon to transmit continuously on the emergency distress frequencies which would be picked up by orbiting SARSAT satellites, three fixes of which would be enough to pinpoint a reasonably accurate datum to centre an 'expanding circle' search on.
If it had blown up at altitude, debris would have been spread far and wide. My crew was the first on scene at the terrible Air India 747 terrorist explosion over the Atlantic, west of Ireland in the early 80's which was blown up by Sikh extremist's at altitude. The appalling aftermath was evident all around the ocean, there is a lot of material that doesn't sink, interior panels, soundproofing, foam, rows of seats and apart from the obvious, all their luggage and personal effects contained therein.
It could be that there was a total systems failure on board which caused the autopilot to fail along with a cabin pressure relief valve, causing the decompression and allowing the aircraft to navigate its own path until it hit the water. This may explain why it can't be found as it may be nowhere near where it's expected to be. Although I would still expect the Emergency Locator Beacon to be picked up by satellite.
If the Chinese satellite images do prove to be the missing plane, I wouldn't be suprised if the Chinese had the whole thing on radar/satellite the whole time, but are hardly going to jump in with "look what we know" if they don't want their neighbours to know just how good and accurate their espionage coverage of their respective territories are. Wait a couple of days, have a third party science agency announce it when it's getting nowhere and you have the same outcome, but no secrets divulged.
That may answer the issue of how it flew on away from the last confirmed position without being detected or tracked, perhaps it was tracked.
The hypoxia/depressurisation theories are all well and good, and plausible to a point, but still not seen anything that really ties in such an event with the transponder being turned off or shut down, or the reported change of course the plane made. If it is found crashed, two events will have occured, 1) the comms/transponder/ADS-B were turned off or failed without any hijack codes or maydays being called in. 2) The plane crashed into the sea. As of yet not a single theory has really tied in those two things into one event.
Still lots more to come on this methinks.
That may answer the issue of how it flew on away from the last confirmed position without being detected or tracked, perhaps it was tracked.
The hypoxia/depressurisation theories are all well and good, and plausible to a point, but still not seen anything that really ties in such an event with the transponder being turned off or shut down, or the reported change of course the plane made. If it is found crashed, two events will have occured, 1) the comms/transponder/ADS-B were turned off or failed without any hijack codes or maydays being called in. 2) The plane crashed into the sea. As of yet not a single theory has really tied in those two things into one event.
Still lots more to come on this methinks.
"DigitalGlobe has put its high-resolution satellite images online so people can search for the missing Malaysia flight. User Mike Seberger tagged this image of what appears to be the wreckage of a plane underwater. The sighting is now being investigated by experts."
Looks more like a boat to me.
Carol M said:
"DigitalGlobe has put its high-resolution satellite images online so people can search for the missing Malaysia flight. User Mike Seberger tagged this image of what appears to be the wreckage of a plane underwater. The sighting is now being investigated by experts."
Looks more like a boat to me.
Aii saw that yesterday, think it turned out it was a tanker with a barge next to it.
Looks like those satellite images aren't the plane after all...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world … 88719.html
US investigators are examining whether missing Flight MH370 was “intentionally diverted” from its planned route after new data revealed the plane may have flown for a further four hours from the point of its last confirmed location. The report said data downloaded automatically from the plane’s engines, suggests the plane flew for a total of five hours.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world … 88719.html
US investigators are examining whether missing Flight MH370 was “intentionally diverted” from its planned route after new data revealed the plane may have flown for a further four hours from the point of its last confirmed location. The report said data downloaded automatically from the plane’s engines, suggests the plane flew for a total of five hours.