M market watch

afennell said:
This is my old car if anyone has any questions.
I though the colour comb was fantastic. :thumbsup:



tomscott said:
This looks a nice genuine example

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107315685317?atmobcid=soc4

Not the most desirable colour combo. Makes me think that the more desirable colour combos could do a bit better at this milage. Cheapest on AT under 80k.

I normally wouldn’t like Silver but this one looks so good. The suspension is lowered. Springs or coilovers? Which?

I would definitely buy this.
 
Just springs,
The car was in amazing condition, allot better then some I looked at with half the miles .
It really has nothing for the next owner to do.
 
Its not a negative what I mean is that its a safe combo. Some of the more elaborate colour combos are more desirable.
 
Papa_Zee said:
afennell said:
This is my old car if anyone has any questions.
I though the colour comb was fantastic. :thumbsup:



tomscott said:
This looks a nice genuine example

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107315685317?atmobcid=soc4

Not the most desirable colour combo. Makes me think that the more desirable colour combos could do a bit better at this milage. Cheapest on AT under 80k.

I normally wouldn’t like Silver but this one looks so good. The suspension is lowered. Springs or coilovers? Which?

I would definitely buy this.
It's under tyred that's why it looks lower on top what's been done to the suspension
 
tomscott said:
Twin of mine for sale been on for a while but 1 of 4 in the UK in this combo

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106103687509?model=Z4%20M&sort=price-asc&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&maximum-mileage=80000&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&make=BMW&include-delivery-option=on&postcode=m307hl&page=1

Weird that the M badge one side is wonky
That's genuinely lovely! 8)
 
Thought this was worth a post for someone looking for a Z4MR at the lower end of the market.

2007
Ruby Black
3 Owners
98k
2 Keys
Paint, Roof & interior in good order
£10.5k (no offers)

Seller does state in need of TLC & for the price I imagine it might need a few parts...

Rod bearing shells, Tyres, Discs, Inspection II perhaps....

Steering rack joints need attention going by the MOT. If nothing more serious then it seems a reasonable buy? What do members think....

Facebook comments asking for more details but nothing from "Big Perm" yet. Would be interested to know what is required.

It may also have a poor or inconsistent service history but it's been well used on the road each year so who knows.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4193421740752533&id=931574800270593&sfnsn=scwspmo
 
One would hope they at least will have the decency to wear a mask, cloak and wave a couple of Flintlocks around when spinning their schpeel on this one…. :roll:
 

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There’s a cheap silver grey MC in the cars for sale section - possibly a way into an MC? I suspect the mileage could be against it though?
 
Hey peeps looking for some help on a couple of Coupes.
I sold my M Coupe over 2 years ago now and have had 2 F-types since and have recently picked up a new Supra. I'm looking at picking up another car as a bit of a project (essentially getting it mint) to go alongside the Supra and was thinking either an S2000 or a Z4MC, essentially something that won't depreciate much.

I've come accross 2 coupes and wonder if anyone has any info on them? I've checked their histories online but am hoping someone has either owned, seen or experienced these cars.

First is this black one from Motorhub - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...searchad=Used&make=BMW&postcode=wa42hx&page=1

I understand the dealer isn't too reputable, I can see the rear wheels are on the front and the exhaust is slightly lopsided, high mileage, lights seem abit shite, tatty seat, full history. Not many pics so can't see the tyres nor the quality of the body with it being black and overcast in the images.

Second is this one from Invictus Motors - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...c&radius=1500&make=BMW&postcode=wa42hx&page=1

Dealer seems to be reviewed well. Seems to have been modified with a wrapped(?) roof and colourless M badges, Tyres seem like cheapies, some rusty screws under the bonnet, another lopsided exhaust, interior seems better.

If anyone has any info that would be awesome :D
 
At some point it would be interesting to see how your Supra compares to your MC, but on another thread!

Anyway back on topic I don't know anything about those 2, but the black one has been for sale for ages. The general consensus seems to be it has 4 front wheels fitted - possibly the set I sold to a forum member who was selling his MC and wanted so sell his after-market wheels separately! But if it hasn't sold there is usually a good reason.

Have you seen either of these adverts on here?

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=130624

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=129012

They've both had new bearing shells fitted so that's £1K or so you won't need to spend.

Good luck with your search anyway. :thumbsup:
 
Mr Tidy said:
At some point it would be interesting to see how your Supra compares to your MC, but on another thread!

Anyway back on topic I don't know anything about those 2, but the black one has been for sale for ages. The general consensus seems to be it has 4 front wheels fitted - possibly the set I sold to a forum member who was selling his MC and wanted so sell his after-market wheels separately! But if it hasn't sold there is usually a good reason.

Have you seen either of these adverts on here?

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=130624

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=129012

They've both had new bearing shells fitted so that's £1K or so you won't need to spend.

Good luck with your search anyway. :thumbsup:

I think some will be put off by the miles on the Silver Grey one - I wouldn’t be personally but on an enthusiasts forum it could go against it. 50k miles on the new shells could also put it, in the eyes of some, close to needing a second set.
 
Mr Tidy said:
At some point it would be interesting to see how your Supra compares to your MC, but on another thread!

Anyway back on topic I don't know anything about those 2, but the black one has been for sale for ages. The general consensus seems to be it has 4 front wheels fitted - possibly the set I sold to a forum member who was selling his MC and wanted so sell his after-market wheels separately! But if it hasn't sold there is usually a good reason.

Have you seen either of these adverts on here?

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=130624

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=129012

They've both had new bearing shells fitted so that's £1K or so you won't need to spend.

Good luck with your search anyway. :thumbsup:

As Mr Tidy, says. That black one's been up for ages... pretty sure it's actually years at this point! Part of me really wishes someone would just buy it and sort it out while documenting it here. However, the fact that it hasn't sold for so long says there's a bit more wrong with it than just the wheels and wonky backboxes. I'm sure they would take a reasonable offer just to be rid of it so maybe worth a try as a project.
 
The problem with these higher milers is you could dump 6-8k on them easily and for 21-22 you could have a decent 60+k miler. So it doesn't really make sense unless you can do all the work yourself. I would rather spend the money on a lower miler. At 10k might be worth a punt but thats probably why its sat for so long.
 
tomscott said:
The problem with these higher milers is you could dump 6-8k on them easily and for 21-22 you could have a decent 60+k miler. So it doesn't really make sense unless you can do all the work yourself. I would rather spend the money on a lower miler. At 10k might be worth a punt but thats probably why its sat for so long.
Agreed!

Makes me wonder once again that the z4m prices don't sit quite right in this country, mint low mileage cars aren't worth the premium you'd expect for some reason hence the cheaper project cars don't sell...

It would be interesting to see a graph. Maybe I'll knock one up if I get chance...
 
Exactly, the low milers are only 10k more really but at the same time because of age they will also need work and finding a low miler that hasn't just been driven to the shops and has been serviced properly is hard too.

Regardless of the car when they get to 80-100k there are quite a lot of things that should be done to secure the investment.

Few of them itemised
  • Vanos Rebuild
  • Rod Bearings
  • Engine and Gearbox Mounts
  • Oil Pump
  • Water Pump
  • Suspension
  • Disks and Pads
  • Worth getting an INP I/II to level the playing field as most garages tick INP I/II for normal oil services
  • Paintwork condition at 130-150k

The following is by no means a complaining post just a document of where im at with mine so far. Im quite anal which im sure a lot of people on here are and want the car to be right. I think im about 6-7k in repairs and additional parts (like aero skirts etc) so far. Probably another 5k from being where it needs to be.

Standard costs to keep it on the road: £600 tax for 2 years £1200 my insurance is the same £1200 so £2400 in total so far. Fuel - done 6k in it so about £1500. Only 6k because ive been getting through the work that needs doing.

Mine is a 2006 with 71k on it bought it with 65k 2 years ago and ive had lots of little things that have mounted up. I haven't done any of the big ticket items yet but so far...

  • 65k Inspection 1 - to get it on a level playing field when I got it.
  • Both sets of disks were warped so replaced all round
  • Xenon washers weren't working and needed a new pump, once pump was replaced it was leaking and still havent got to the bottom of it as non of the pipes are split but keeps leaking.
  • I had alarm issues would randomly set off so getting to the bottom was a bit of a faf and had some sensors replaced
    Rear spring was broken so replaced the rears
  • Roof motor relocated
  • The gap tech was installed really poorly by twisting the wires and it turned out this was a contributing factor to my electrical gremlins so had it installed correctly
  • Drivers side window regulator died and the door skin is a one use item. Had the regulator fixed and the door skin replaced
  • The car then started with hesitation and it had Bosche spark plugs so replaced with NGK and had the valve positioning sensors reset
  • Exhaust hangers were shot so were replaced
  • Rear struts for the boot were worn out and the banging of the boot has broken the rear light so replaced both
  • Booked in for an inspection 2 early sept as I don't have a shim replacement document, Dif and gearbox oils were last replaced in 2015
  • Just had 4 new MPS4s tyres for the CSLs

Other non essential stuff
  • Replaced the badges all round because they tend to disintegrate over time
  • Bought an OEM strut brace
  • Bought OEM aero skirts
  • Replaced the stubby arial it had with a nicer stubby
  • Bought extended leather for around the A pillars and the vanity mirrors
  • Clutch Stop
  • Bluetooth module
  • Replacement steering wheel surrounds because they were worn

Other bits
The car had carbon wrap on the front and rear valance the front had some sort of damage 10" gash through the centre, rear pulled away the paint as I assume its been resprayed before, both wing mirrors have been caught so was covering up a bit of damage. So need the front and rear bumpers doing as well as the aero skirts. Really the bonnet and wings need doing too as with 71k and being so low they are prone to road damage.

Bits that I need to do
  • Suspension refresh - the dampers are original and aren't really doing any damping as far as I can tell. When replacing the springs there was very little resistance - Also all that goes with
  • Vanos Rebuild
  • Rod Bearings
  • Engine and Gearbox Mounts
  • Oil Pump
  • Water Pump
  • Brake lines - look ok atm but will need doing
  • My roof has 2 wear hole where it catches on the rubber at the rear and 2 more that are wearing through so will need to replace at some point.Currently just aesthetic and its garaged but would like to sort.
  • CSLs could do with a refurb

Other nice to do bits
  • Some sort of induction upgrade
  • I have a bespoke stainless steel exhaust and x pipe that im not sure to install as no idea what it sounds like
  • Would like to do the 135i performance brake upgrade

I bought the car for £14.5k probably worth £15-16 but probably going to be in the 10k range for mechanical repairs not including aethetics. so im in the same boat really could have bought a mint garage queen roadster with 24k but that would have needed work too and probably wouldn't want to drive it for fear of ruining it.

Just worth baring in mind with the higher milers as there's lots of stuff that can need sorting. If your handy mechanic im sure these make really great buys but im not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination. The best ive done so far is replacing the rear springs.

If its forever it doesn't matter but most aren't. Its a really nice presentable car tho and rare being 1-4 in the UK in this combo.

Love the car tho and these are still cheap cars in the grand scheme, I have a 996 4S too which has 30ks worth of paperwork with it but that car is almost a complete project now.
 
tomscott said:
Drivers side regulator died and the door skin is a one use item. Had the regulator fixed and the door skin replaced
I had the pax side regulator replaced and soon after noticed some very small ripples/indentations in the door skin low down. I was puzzled by it thinking maybe it was corrosion, two body shops agreed on corrosion or accident theory. A third said it was probably caused when the regulator was replaced. Why would that be?
 
Does amaze me how often the car is talked down on here, must put off new buyers. Overpriced, bearing shells, vanos etc etc.
 
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