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Z4M-2006 said:
Mad Professor said:
It's worth 14k tops in my opinion . As a potential future investment ,unless your Dad is going to hang onto it for at least another 10-15 years and keep it pristine then forget it ,Esepcially by the time you've factored in insurance ,tax ,servicing etc .If your dad just fancies it because he likes nice cars and can easily afford it as a wee hobby then it's very sensible .
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£14,000 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh yea......Sorry,its a roadster... :thumbsup:



As you where..
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Mine had 24k on it when I bought it last April and it cost a reasonable amount more than that. And there are plenty MRs advertised at more than mine cost with twice that mileage. I was staggered when I had a look yesterday. Though I know the ad price is rarely what people pay.
 
beanie said:
Couldn't agree more about old cars and low miles, though I understand why it can seem appealing.

I've just spent the last 2 months looking at z3s for my girlfriend (11 in total) and the mileage was largely irrelevant with regards to actual condition.

I'd be happy to pay a premium though if the mechanicals and body tallied up with the miles-trouble is many owners seem to view the lack of use as a reason to leave it unserviced for years on end.
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Yep I agree it's all about mechanicals and service history and a wedge of receipts preferably from a previous owner with a healthy dose of OCD . I don't really care about colour combos . I do however have a theory that people who look after their cars spend money on decent rubber . The previous owner of my car was delighted to tell me in incredible detail every single thing which had been done to the car with all the recepits being filed in a meticulous manner . He was also a master mechanic which gave me a lot of reassurance . Nice people usUally sell nice cars in my experience.
 
Yeah tyres are a good indicator. And if the seller can tell you the brand of car shampoo and wax they use, and provided you approx (no turtle wax please :lol: ) then it's a good indicator :thumbsup:
 
LostBoy_84 said:
So Jimbob's car is now up at Sytner Nottingham http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ode/b377la/body-type/coupe/make/bmw?logcode=p
(I think Jimbob's photos were loads better!)

...and the Jay Kay one is back up for £4k more iirc http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ew/page/2/body-type/coupe/model/z4m?logcode=p
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Holy :dizzy: You'd have to really really really really REALLY want an OCD clean Z4M to pay that much for one. Mileage aside, it's still a ~8 year old car! Personally, and it's just my opinion, you'd have to be either crazy or loaded to pay that. For that money/budget, and I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but you can get an arguably better car with as much prestige as the Z4MC! i.e.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ype/featured-listing/dealer-id/76348/usedcars - 2007 Bentley Continental 6.0 60k miles £35k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...250pz/make/porsche/page/1/model/911?logcode=p - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 38k Miles £35k

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...-type/featured-listing/dealer-id/757/usedcars - 2012 BMW M3 23k Miles £31k

If I was going to spend that kind of money on a M, I'd be looking at M3 or M5. But, that's just me. There may be someone out there somewhere who really wants the best Z4MC on face value (it could still be knackered after standing for so long). But I have a feeling that one will be up for sale for a long long time.
 
ncrossy1980 said:
Holy :dizzy: You'd have to really really really really REALLY want an OCD clean Z4M to pay that much for one. Mileage aside, it's still a ~8 year old car! Personally, and it's just my opinion, you'd have to be either crazy or loaded to pay that. For that money/budget, and I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but you can get an arguably better car with as much prestige as the Z4MC! i.e.
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I think the argument of it being too expensive for an 8yr old car is invalid, there are A LOT of older cars for A LOT more cash out there!
You probably didn't see it but last there was an Imola MC with less than 2k miles on it which Hexagon sold for £40k.
But yes, if I had 35k to spend on a car I'd be looking at a 911 or maybe the Exige S3/ new Cayman S/R :driving:
 
LostBoy_84 said:
ncrossy1980 said:
Holy :dizzy: You'd have to really really really really REALLY want an OCD clean Z4M to pay that much for one. Mileage aside, it's still a ~8 year old car! Personally, and it's just my opinion, you'd have to be either crazy or loaded to pay that. For that money/budget, and I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but you can get an arguably better car with as much prestige as the Z4MC! i.e.
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I think the argument of it being too expensive for an 8yr old car is invalid, there are A LOT of older cars for A LOT more cash out there!
You probably didn't see it but last there was an Imola MC with less than 2k miles on it which Hexagon sold for £40k.
But yes, if I had 35k to spend on a car I'd be looking at a 911 or maybe the Exige S3/ new Cayman S/R :driving:
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I wrote that in a hurry, I think I meant it's still an 8 year old car as in for the money you can still buy the same 8 year old car for half that price, and there are better newer cars for that money... I know age doesn't directly dictate price, christ, try and find an 8 year old ferrari for less than the price of a small house! :rofl:
 
StevenH72 said:
original guvnor said:
LostBoy_84 said:
So Jimbob's car is now up at Sytner Nottingham http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ode/b377la/body-type/coupe/make/bmw?logcode=p
(I think Jimbob's photos were loads better!)
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Interesting. That's virtually identical to my mileage, same sort of condition but less well specified.
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Wow, at 32k and better spec my car must be worth atleast £24,500 :driving: :driving: :driving: :D :D (better let my insurers know)
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Get on it now! Have you got an agreed valuation on yours Steven? I keep meaning to do mine and haven't got around to it yet.
 
mine was agreed value at 35k with reis specialist insurance and interestingly they requested some very detailed specific photos and a copy of receipts for the larger modifications.
 
Just sharing the ad below, looks like an enthusiast based on stubby, what looks to be mpss tyres 70k and asking 18k is a top price at a non bmw dealer

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502201116579?atmobcid=soc3
 
Would someone really pay £18k for a 70k miler from Appley Van Sales or whatever the dealer is called? :rofl:
IMO, and I'm going to sound like Professor, I think that's a £14k max car from a non-BMW dealer :P with a likely purchase price around £13k.
 
Fast3000 said:
Just sharing the ad below, looks like an enthusiast based on stubby, what looks to be mpss tyres 70k and asking 18k is a top price at a non bmw dealer

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502201116579?atmobcid=soc3
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"ice cold automatic aircon" :thumbsup: Stick to selling ya' vans.

"come with 65 point mechanical inspection"

Oh well that's made me feel much comfortable and at ease! Do tell me which 65 screws you tightened and what non-van in-house expertise you have to make such claims of reputability! :headbang:

Jesus, these statements are just nonsense words these days. My car was from Evans Halshaw who perform a "Comprehensive Full Vehicle Health Check" on ALL their used cars, the premium cars undertake "120 Exacting Checks " by "Manufacturer Trained technicians". Yet mine was flogged to me with a knackered air con unit, faulty electric wing mirrors and what sounds like a goosed power steering pump. It's all bollox. Winds me up something rotten it does :violent1:
 
Fast3000 said:
Just sharing the ad below, looks like an enthusiast based on stubby, what looks to be mpss tyres 70k and asking 18k is a top price at a non bmw dealer

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502201116579?atmobcid=soc3
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I've got a feeling that will be going no where at that price.

Nice spec but seat colour will divide buyers, miles on the high side and for sale at a van dealer?

Should be up for no more than £15k imo, with room for the buyer to knock a grand off.
 
I don't think seat colour will divide more buyers than most colours do. I certainly didn't want black seats, which are probably seen as a "safe" option for example. It's an austere looking interior anyway so black just makes it worse. I'm biased but Champagne or Sepang or something like that on a dark blue car is a great contrast and really suits the exterior colour.

I agree on the price though. But in mitigation, it looks well presented and I quite like the colour of those 224's.If 40k mileage cars are at BMW dealers for £23k then £5k less for 30k more miles seems reasonable. That doesn't mean of course BMW dealers are shifting them for £23k but if they are, then maybe the rest of the market is starting to move in line. When franchise dealers are buying privately advertised cars for decent money (as they are) you know supply is well behind demand.

There's a bit of snobbery over the Van dealer bit. If it's a good car and they're honest and reputable does it really matter that much?
 
original guvnor said:
There's a bit of snobbery over the Van dealer bit. If it's a good car and they're honest and reputable does it really matter that much?
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I don't think it's snobbery, it's the price the car is at considering the source of it.
I've had a look at the website and they do also sell cars too - about 5 in stock currently. If the price was right then sure it would be worth a look but not what I consider probably above BMW dealer price
I would want to know how they sourced the car.It might simply be a trade-in or an employees car.
It does seem to have full BMW service history.
Not keen on wheels sprayed non std colour and why someone would do it.

Buying used cars is risky. It's natural to try to assess the risk. A high priced car at a dealer who by their very name specialise in vans and where they might have picked it up at an auction (assuming it was - why auctioned if good?) means there's a good chance something isn't good.
Could of course turn out to be a fantastic car. But £18k?

Someone nearby should check it out :)
 
Buying from a main dealer offers no guarantee the car is good..

Especially with a Z4MC.

Each car should be taken on its own individual merit, whoever is selling it.
 
Agree but it's a case of assessing the risks, but of course there's no guarantees. Buy a car with issues from a main dealer and they have to fix it and will do so at any one of the dealers around the country - the warranty is solid. Want to return it? Likely to be easier. Issues with the dealer regarding the car? Speak to BMW UK to resolve. For me, having never had any issue with any main dealer that we didn't easily resolve, is why I'd pay the extra for that and why from elsewhere the price would have to be a decent bit less.
 
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