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Bing said:
So the inflated advertised prices are not what people are paying. Without wanting to be crass, did you pay closer to the £16.5k the private seller had it up for, or the £22,850 pitched by the dealer ?

Oh, and congratulations Tom, welcome to the club :thumbsup:
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Thanks!

I'm paying very close to halfway between those two figures, although Gap Insurance (which I want as these cars are changing hands for far more than they "book" at) and Road Fund Licence means my Invoice is just over £20k!

Tom.
 
pvr said:
Interesting that you mentioned those items as the advert described it as just about mint and the list of wheel refurbs, loose trim, dent and scuffs gives me an entire different mental image.
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Don't get me wrong; it wasn't "tatty", but I went over it with a critical eye, and a few things need correcting in my view!

Tom.
 
srhutch said:
You say that the inspection 2 is being done due to time and not mileage. How many miles short is it?
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I follow the logic that the Services are due at 12-15k (or as the car asks for them) or 2 years (regardless of mileage).

Following the Running In Inspection, I believe that the Services should be; Oil, Inspection 1, Oil, Inspection 2, & repeat, and as this one has just turned 8 years old (registered Dec 2006), I believe (as do the Dealer!) that it is due an Inspection 2.

As the car has only done less than 35k miles, it will be a fair few miles short (having only covered less than 4k miles in the last 2 years!)

Tom.
 
TGS said:
as this one has just turned 8 years old (registered Dec 2006), I believe (as do the Dealer!) that it is due an Inspection 2.
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Just a shame that the service booklet doesn't agree :wink:

Nice car in any event sir :thumbsup:
 
StevenH72 said:
TGS said:
as this one has just turned 8 years old (registered Dec 2006), I believe (as do the Dealer!) that it is due an Inspection 2.
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Just a shame that the service booklet doesn't agree :wink:

Nice car in any event sir :thumbsup:
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Forgive me; what should the intervals and types of service be?

Tom.
 
M service schedule:

Minimum:

- every 2 years Oil and Brake fluid changed if mileage is not reached
- Repeat until mileage is reached for Inspection 1 (around 20 - 22k).
- Repeat oil / brake every 2 years again until Inspection 2 mileage has been reached (45k or so).


shims do no wear if you don't do the mileage so no point in checking them.

The only debate seems about the gearbox / diff oil that is replaced at Insp 2 where some feel the time may be too long. I have no worries about that one as on most BMW gearboxes, the fluid is filled for life and is never changed anyway.
 
Or... :D

Oil - Insp 1 - Oil - Insp 2 - Oil and so on depending on mileage, max 2 years

There is a split on here about which is correct
 
flimper, even you are allowed your (wrong) opinion of course. It is a democracy after all :lol:
 
TGS said:
Bing said:
So the inflated advertised prices are not what people are paying. Without wanting to be crass, did you pay closer to the £16.5k the private seller had it up for, or the £22,850 pitched by the dealer ?

Oh, and congratulations Tom, welcome to the club :thumbsup:
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Thanks!

I'm paying very close to halfway between those two figures, although Gap Insurance (which I want as these cars are changing hands for far more than they "book" at) and Road Fund Licence means my Invoice is just over £20k!

Tom.
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Thanks for being pretty open about the price you paid - helps others with their negotiations.
 
flimper said:
Or... :D

Oil - Insp 1 - Oil - Insp 2 - Oil and so on depending on mileage, max 2 years

There is a split on here about which is correct
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No way I'm getting an inspection server every 4K. My logic is the same as the service book :wink:
 
Adamski said:
LostBoy_84 said:
Adamski said:
Owner was "scotia-steve74" from here. Was advertised for £18k on the forum.

I reckon AUC will have it up for £19k-£20k
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I'm saying £22-23k seeing as they have a 70k mile MC up at £19k
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Aye if it's an English dealer. No Scottish dealer would sell it at that price cos we're all tight fisted gits :lol:
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It went to Sytner, second Z4M Coupe I have sold to them :) Very straight forward deal.

I won't go into price, but I got back more than I paid for it in October, the BMW Warranty refunded so worked out good for me (they didn't need it). And I got my plate back. I owned it for 4 months at no cost so nice to have some free motoring for a change, but I only managed over 1k miles in it, just couldn't find the time (or weather) to drive it.

After buying the 760il, I just preferred the comfort and speed of that (totally different and a fraction slower but double glazed) - must be getting old!

I'd expect to see it up at 18/19k max.

I hope someone gets it who will love it, it was an amazing car and it needs someone who will have time to enjoy it.

Saying all the above, given the lower price of the Z4M Roadster, I could be tempted on an Interlagos Blue one, steal at the money these go for...

For market watch, price is going up, for excellent examples. When they are lower mileage (sub 50k), low owners with a ton of history they will sell for a premium, as they are rare cars. The higher mileage ones are absolute bargains and I wouldn't be afraid of picking one up, great engine, easily will do 130k+. Then you don't lose much and can enjoy much more without worrying about value so much and polishing every week (not in my nature not to though!)....
 
Can anyone explain the big difference in Glasses Guide and current prices?

I have valued a couple of cars recently and both have come out about £2K less than the advertised prices.

Is this just the market rate and the guide prices will catch up soon?

Is £14,500 for an 06 roadster with 44K Mileage, 3 previous owners, FSH and massive list of options seem about right?

The car reg. starts HV06, does anyone know the car?
 
Don't know the car, but glasses guide will always be less than the market for these cars because there are significant emotional and 'illogical' factors determining what someone is willing to, or should, pay for it... Also applies to what people or dealers put it up for sale for. And to be fair there is a similar difference for most other models of E85/86 Zs. I think glasses or something valued my 3.0 at no more than £7k in tip top condition, but I got just under £8k for it - 2006, lots of toys and almost all options bar DSP, and 96k miles. But it was gorgeous and had been really well looked after.

(This is the point where Chris pops up and tells me it fell apart after I sold it to him :cry: )
 
speedy239 said:
Can anyone explain the big difference in Glasses Guide and current prices?

I have valued a couple of cars recently and both have come out about £2K less than the advertised prices.

Is this just the market rate and the guide prices will catch up soon?

Is £14,500 for an 06 roadster with 44K Mileage, 3 previous owners, FSH and massive list of options seem about right?

The car reg. starts HV06, does anyone know the car?
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I read recently someone saying pay no more than £13k a 45k mile roadster, but take that as you will. The cars are rare and if people want one and the colour/spec suits them, the book value can be disregarded. It's not like a Ford Mundao where another one the same spec will come along in a few hours :)
3 owers is fine, 44k miles is fine, is the FSH BMW or specialist? THat does matter IMO. The price, well I know one dealer(non franchise) had an 07 plate 45k mile car recently, but on a private plate going for £15k and reckon an offer of 14k would have secured it - andthat included the private plate.
 
Darren M said:
speedy239 said:
Can anyone explain the big difference in Glasses Guide and current prices?

I have valued a couple of cars recently and both have come out about £2K less than the advertised prices.

Is this just the market rate and the guide prices will catch up soon?

Is £14,500 for an 06 roadster with 44K Mileage, 3 previous owners, FSH and massive list of options seem about right?

The car reg. starts HV06, does anyone know the car?
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I read recently someone saying pay no more than £13k a 45k mile roadster, but take that as you will. The cars are rare and if people want one and the colour/spec suits them, the book value can be disregarded. It's not like a Ford Mundao where another one the same spec will come along in a few hours :)
3 owers is fine, 44k miles is fine, is the FSH BMW or specialist? THat does matter IMO. The price, well I know one dealer(non franchise) had an 07 plate 45k mile car recently, but on a private plate going for £15k and reckon an offer of 14k would have secured it - andthat included the private plate.
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I know which one you mean, the blue one? That vanished off the Autotrader so that might have sold.
In my younger days I used to quote Parkers and Glasses guides when trying to buy cars thinking it was some form of consumer right, a fact I could use to my advantage, I realised a long time ago it's all pointless. Dealers will only entertain those guide books when it suits them, i.e. when they want to offer you very little for your car on trade in, but when it comes to you buying a car from them they're well within their rights to tell you to bore off if you waltz in spouting guide prices at them. And most do now.
 
ncrossy1980 said:
I know which one you mean, the blue one? .
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Probably same one, James Paul or Paul James. It had recent disks all round and looked very clean tidy - even the calipers.
 
speedy239 said:
Can anyone explain the big difference in Glasses Guide and current prices?

I have valued a couple of cars recently and both have come out about £2K less than the advertised prices.

Is this just the market rate and the guide prices will catch up soon?

Is £14,500 for an 06 roadster with 44K Mileage, 3 previous owners, FSH and massive list of options seem about right?

The car reg. starts HV06, does anyone know the car?
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IMO any book price is useless on cars like these; sports cars with a cult following and low production numbers, they're always going to keep their prices better than you general car types.
Look at the S1 and S2 Lotus Exige for example, around £10k out between book price and actual selling price.
It's all about supply and demand, have a look at what others are going for with similar mileage, spec, condition, service history etc.
I'd say that price looks very good if everything adds up.
 
I rang up for one on AT today to be told it had sold within an hour. Interlagos Blue coupe, 36K miles, £17K.
 
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