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hi - Apologies couldn't see if this had been discussed already - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608136770160?make=bmw&model=z4m&atcido=soc-cars-twt001 via

Dealer says its fsh with receipts....

at least it has a V6, different front and back dealer plates :?
 
Fast3000 said:
hi - Apologies couldn't see if this had been discussed already - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201608136770160?make=bmw&model=z4m&atcido=soc-cars-twt001 via

Dealer says its fsh with receipts....

at least it has a V6, different front and back dealer plates :?
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Probably get throttled for adding an opinion but...

Been FS for a looooooonnnnggg time! Don't think the price is terrible and there is probably a fair amount of wiggle room. If all the required maintenance is done and been done at the right time, including new tyres and disks/pads would want for nothing for 2 years. But the risk you take at this mileage other consumables that is not in BMWs schedule will need doing. Budget £1500 for this plus anything else that's found while this is being done. The fangs are damaged and the bumper has a bit of pealing so will need doing too budget £250-400 Looks like its down to the plastic so will need doing properly.

The fact its been FS so long probably denotes something of the above is not there.

If all the above needs doing sooner rather than later the car will owe 16-17k so might as well buy a lower mileage car.
 
It's not far off where mine was when I needed a new clutch & flywheel - which can be done for less than £1400 at an indy, or £3k at a dealer.

Plus it will probably be due a diff (£3k).

These are 2 of the things I mentioned to the insurance assessor when I was negotiating the possible write-off costs, and pointed out that I'd have to pay £10k just for a leggy Z4MC and then pay the £5k+ for suspension, exhaust, Grupp-M, and brand new clutch/flywheel.
 
Didn't think the diff was that expensive - had mine done under warranty 1K...? maybe they got it wrong!
 
Fast3000 said:
Didn't think the diff was that expensive - had mine done under warranty 1K...? maybe they got it wrong!
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Was that your contribution or the total cost?

I think my total was £3150 and I had to pay 30% as it was 70,000 miles old and the insurer wouldn't pay 100%. Diff alone was £2650, £140 for oil and £360 for labour.

Here's the current price from the online Rybrook part catalogue, and I was told the price increased significantly about 2 weeks after I'd got mine (due to Brexit of course)...
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Mind you, I didn't pay anything when I had the first one replaced under warranty at about 74,000 miles.
 
mmm-five said:
Fast3000 said:
Didn't think the diff was that expensive - had mine done under warranty 1K...? maybe they got it wrong!
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Was that your contribution or the total cost?

I think my total was £3150 and I had to pay 30% as it was 70,000 miles old and the insurer wouldn't pay 100%. Diff alone was £2650, £140 for oil and £360 for labour.

Here's the current price from the online Rybrook part catalogue, and I was told the price increased significantly about 2 weeks after I'd got mine (due to Brexit of course)...
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Mind you, I didn't pay anything when I had the first one replaced under warranty at about 74,000 miles.
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I see they were offering you a 1p discount on the 'your price' Tony :lol: :thumbsup:
 
afennell said:
Do the difs often fail or need replacing, and what would be the signs?
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I didn't notice anything wrong with my first diff. No clunking, no whining, nothing. But the dealer that it was in for an Inspection 2 said they'd noticed it was noisy and would I mind if they changed it - so as I knew it was under warranty (0 excess, comprehensive) I told them to fill their boots.

My 2nd was was whining as soon as I got it back from the accident repair in March. Immediately pointed it out to the bodyshop (who didn't give a :censored: ) and then I spent a few weeks going back & forth with the insurer/engineer to discuss why I believed it was the accident that caused it.

Finally believed me that the diff must have taken some impact during the accident, as it was fine for the Inspection 2 a few weeks previously, fine on a track day the following week, and fine during the MOT the week before the accident.
 
mmm-five said:
afennell said:
Do the difs often fail or need replacing, and what would be the signs?
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I didn't notice anything wrong with my first diff. No clunking, no whining, nothing. But the dealer that it was in for an Inspection 2 said they'd noticed it was noisy and would I mind if they changed it - so as I knew it was under warranty (0 excess, comprehensive) I told them to fill their boots.

My 2nd was was whining as soon as I got it back from the accident repair in March. Immediately pointed it out to the bodyshop (who didn't give a :censored: ) and then I spent a few weeks going back & forth with the insurer/engineer to discuss why I believed it was the accident that caused it.

Finally believed me that the diff must have taken some impact during the accident, as it was fine for the Inspection 2 a few weeks previously, fine on a track day the following week, and fine during the MOT the week before the accident.
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Is the M all fixed and sorted now?
 
tomscott said:
Is the M all fixed and sorted now?
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Nearly.

Due back before Christmas, and has been delayed whilst the guy doing it has had to have his lift fixed 3 times in as many weeks, and finally re-installed by the manufacturer, and now re-certified so that his liability insurance in valid.

Also had to do some work on the exhaust as it needed dropping to do the diff, as it couldn't just be unbolted due to the corrosion on the centre section joins.

Am also taking the opportunity to do a suspension service, full geometry (as the bodyshop put it to some extreme camber), MOT, fixing the rear pad sensor box (that the bodyshop moved and put behind the bodywork and sealed it in), replace front undertray (damaged/hanging off), and anything else he finds whilst he's got it.
 
mmm-five said:
tomscott said:
Is the M all fixed and sorted now?
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Nearly.

Due back before Christmas, and has been delayed whilst the guy doing it has had to have his lift fixed 3 times in as many weeks, and finally re-installed by the manufacturer, and now re-certified so that his liability insurance in valid.

Also had to do some work on the exhaust as it needed dropping to do the diff, as it couldn't just be unbolted due to the corrosion on the centre section joins.

Am also taking the opportunity to do a suspension service, full geometry (as the bodyshop put it to some extreme camber), MOT, fixing the rear pad sensor box (that the bodyshop moved and put behind the bodywork and sealed it in), replace front undertray (damaged/hanging off), and anything else he finds whilst he's got it.
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Is this still all on the insurance, or is this coming out of your own pocket?
 
mmm-five said:
Fast3000 said:
Didn't think the diff was that expensive - had mine done under warranty 1K...? maybe they got it wrong!
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Was that your contribution or the total cost?

I think my total was £3150 and I had to pay 30% as it was 70,000 miles old and the insurer wouldn't pay 100%. Diff alone was £2650, £140 for oil and £360 for labour.

Here's the current price from the online Rybrook part catalogue, and I was told the price increased significantly about 2 weeks after I'd got mine (due to Brexit of course)...
2016-12-02_12-20-35_zpsspeipqmn.png


Mind you, I didn't pay anything when I had the first one replaced under warranty at about 74,000 miles.
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It was probably that expensive - but looked after by AUC warranty :thumbsup:
 
Marlon said:
Is this still all on the insurance, or is this coming out of your own pocket?
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The diff is the final insurance piece (with a contribution from me).

The rest is out of my own pocket and was planned as part of normal maintenance.
 
Beedub said:
M5 that body shop really took the piss!!
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I know.

My last letter to them, mentioning their 5-year guarantee on workmanship got a curt response telling me to take it up with the insurer if I wasn't happy...so I did.

So if anyone is ever tempted to take their car to an Lookers ARC / Vizion Network repairer, then I'd advise against it.

The didn't even provide a car for 6-7 weeks as they at first were waiting for the insurance company to tell them it wasn't a right off, then to approve the repairs, then they needed my insurance documents, then the didn't have a car. Did get £700 refunded for the hire cars I rented.

Their 'guarantee' and BS10125 quality certificate is only useful to wipe my arse on. So much for 'quality guarantee' when they can't even put things back where they came from; can't see why a different tyre across the axle would be a concern; couldn't spot a 1" gap between the sill and door; didn't spot the missing wheel roundel; couldn't hear the diff noise or feel the notchiness of the gears; car returned with EML on (as they couldn't reset it); handbrake not working; mastic over driver's window; rear window seal not stuck down; driver's door doesn't close without a good shove.

Since then we've found the pad sensor has been relocated to somewhere no longer serviceable (without removing the rear quarter & sill), and the door is hopefully being adjusted as part of my current round of maintenance.

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At least, if I ever come to sell, a prospective purchaser can see exactly what's been changed/fixed for the £14k or so total it's finally cost (including the bits I've paid for myself).
 
Hey - this seems super cheap now?!?!? Has anyone taken a look / test drive? It's bordering on too good to be true value....

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201606114827785

Tempted to buy and store at this price and mileage.....

Cheers
 
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