Look what my son did to my new Z4

terrible thing to happen. hope your family are all okay. it's a mental attack on you all as well as a physical attack on the car.

the car is definitely a write off IMO. however if you want another one you could look into the option of buying it back on the cheap and repairing yourself or selling off the parts that are salvageable on here. i had some slight damage done to my car (1 panel and a door).

and the bill came to £4800 once you add everything up. yours has damage all over and needs a new roof.

i must warn you that your insurance is going to be sky high next year. as your policy will need to pay out. so that means your no claims bonus is gone. you now have a claim on your record too. so it may be worth getting a cheap runabout for a year or two. in the long run that is. otherwise you are going to have to pay for this out your own pocket. unless you seek criminal damages from your son which won't be an easy thing to do.

i do however disagree with someone who posted that he hopes he gets off with a probation order. it's a pre-meditated attack. he knew full well what he was doing. if he gets off lightly then chances are he won't be discouraged from doing the same again in future. yes he needs help and support but he also needs to be held responsible for his actions too. this country as it is is far too lenient on people who break the law or bend the rules. this is just my opinion no offence meant to anyone. i know if that happened to my car i would want the person to foot the bill as well as be locked up. a much harder thing to say or do when it's family so i can't fathom what i would want to do in this position. i know people who have been in this position and they just footed the bill themselves. this was on a £30K car with no insurance too. this happened after bailing the person out of trouble which cost them £20K in pay offs. basically they were always too lenient with him and he just got worse and worse. this is why i believe sometimes the only way back is to be forced into rock bottom rather than be kept afloat.
 
Good God! This is a complete nightmare. :o I'm very sorry to read about this whole scenario.

Firstly, your restraint, cool-headedness and clearness of thought under those circumstances is to be truly commended. I don't think I could have held it together with that going on. By doing what you managed to do you avoided anyone actually being physically injured and that's the first and most important thing here.

It's sad that the car has been needlessly ruined...but it is only material damage. The car is replaceable!

I hope that things get better from here on in...for everybody concerned!
 
bulmor said:
Thanks Rob, me too.

Is presently on bail with instructions not to come to village or contact us. I was debating whether to get an old banger for a couple of months just in case. Claire my partner insists no, I should replace it soonest and, that we should not allow someone's awful behaviour to be allowed to affect us or our lives.

I'm not sure, but am leaning toward Claire and soldiering on (I loved that car!!!!)

A friend and neighbour is suffering exactly the same violent outbursts (physical and material damage) from her 27 yr old son. The young fella has huge mood swings - He was and still is a cannabis user. I often wonder if that was the trigger?
 
ronk said:
bulmor said:
Thanks Rob, me too.

Is presently on bail with instructions not to come to village or contact us. I was debating whether to get an old banger for a couple of months just in case. Claire my partner insists no, I should replace it soonest and, that we should not allow someone's awful behaviour to be allowed to affect us or our lives.

I'm not sure, but am leaning toward Claire and soldiering on (I loved that car!!!!)

A friend and neighbour is suffering exactly the same violent outbursts (physical and material damage) from her 27 yr old son. The young fella has huge mood swings - He was and still is a cannabis user. I often wonder if that was the trigger?

more likely mental health issues which are then exasperated by the drug which affects your mind. probably could have done with counselling from a much younger age.

did they suffer any trauma or extreme hardship at any point or go from normality to an extreme? could have happened 15-20 years ago, etc.

not a lot of support is given to kids to deal with stuff that has a major impact on them. losing a parent or a parent becoming extremely unwell etc. support is given to the parent with the condition rather than all affected.
 
My neighbours lad had no shock or trauma -
They gave the lad all he wanted ie the in voque toys, bikes , Disney holiday and then driving lessons and a car - still he repaid with bad bad violent behaviour!

Some people are born bad I think !
I don't think the weed helps tho.
 
Wow! What a dreadful situation for you and your family.
I hope you're all able to deal with this quickly and move on. No idea what I'd have done under similar circumstances, but I think you did very well letting a lump of metal take a beating rather than put others at risk. Even so, such a shame to see the car like this. :(
 
In later years I'm sure ur son will realise that family Is the most important thing. I know I did. My thoughts are with you mate. All the best and Cars come and go but hopefully ur love for a nice car won't die.
 
couldn't see the pics properly before. now i'm home. yes that is 100% a write off. i would strip the car before letting them take it away. if it has anything you can remove do it. cruise control stalk, etc. see if the third brake light is intact. if it has a amp in the boot remove it. the money gained can be used to offset higher premiums in future.

good luck and I hope this is the last of it. such a shame RIP.
 
Thank you to all of you for your helpful and kind comments.

My son's mother did have cancer while I was leaving in Asia. I knew this was a difficult time for them, but didn't realise how difficult until well after I had returned to the UK some years later. (I had been back to the UK on holidays to see them, but it never came up, in hindsight, I probably didn't pick up on things, but I guess spilt milk now).

Yes he does have a drugs and alcohol problem, but nothing specific is more of about escaping I think, but unfortunately he won't take any help and, I do believe it is most likely some psychological issues, that are exasperated by use i.e. they are a symptom not cause.

This does not however excuse him for such behaviour, he had moved down with me as a second chance and given nothing but love. Ironically 6 months ago I picked him up out of a cell in Lincolnshire and, since I opted to be classed as his responsible adult, the court kindly fined me £2.5k for a bunch of previous offences he had committed. To be honest, he was very good when first arriving, which tells me he can hold things off when he needs to, implying that much of this is choice rather than something uncontrollable.

Anyway, in conclusion a very bad time. It will take time to forgive him, but hopefully that will remedy over time. Thanks again for all your kind messages and support.

To the matter at hand then I guess, if anyone knows of any z4 3.0i roadsters 05/06, <100k miles, FSH, professional stereo, electric heated front seats, silver or grey, circa £6k, would love to hear about them.

Thanks guys
 
This one looks good mate :thumbsup:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201705085214934?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&radius=1500&model=Z4&postcode=ll301ye&sort=price-desc&price-from=5000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&price-to=6000&advertising-location=at_cars&make=BMW&page=1

Plus it's got the red leather interior you wanted!

But, you'll have to comprimise with an auto box (with no paddles!)

Or... if you can stretch to £7k (asking price) I'd go for this one myself:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201705025000555?model=Z4&make=BMW&body-type=Coupe&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=ll301ye&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=price-asc&radius=1500&page=1

For obvious reasons :lol: it's also very very competitively priced
 
Tcochrane92 said:
Or... if you can stretch to £7k (asking price) I'd go for this one myself:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201705025000555?model=Z4&make=BMW&body-type=Coupe&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=ll301ye&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=price-asc&radius=1500&page=1

For obvious reasons :lol: it's also very very competitively priced

Of course, you've now been an owner of the roadster and a coupe!

How do they compare, ride, experience, feel etc?

Pros and cons?
 
bulmor said:
Tcochrane92 said:
Or... if you can stretch to £7k (asking price) I'd go for this one myself:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201705025000555?model=Z4&make=BMW&body-type=Coupe&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=ll301ye&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=price-asc&radius=1500&page=1

For obvious reasons :lol: it's also very very competitively priced

Of course, you've now been an owner of the roadster and a coupe!

How do they compare, ride, experience, feel etc?

Pros and cons?

Without wanting to invite the forum firing squad... :?

In MY opinion:

The roadster is more of a "drivers" car, you feel more connected to the "drive". Purely because you've got more noise coming through. You can hear the exhaust better, which tells you what the engine is doing (as well as feeling for it). When the top's down, the rush of wind adds to the sensation of speed.

The ride in my roadster was harsher, but that's because of its setup. My coupe has a soft set up with its bushes and tyres, so its not a like for like comparison.

Experience-wise.. I still much prefer the Coupe, and I like the auto box with paddles more than the manual. They're nicer to look at and you don't have to worry about the roof motor dying on you. And they're less likely to get broken into.
Face-lift models (post 06) are also more powerful and it's definitely noticeable

Overall: I wouldn't get another roadster unless it was an M
 
Tcochrane92 said:
In MY opinion:

The roadster is more of a "drivers" car, you feel more connected to the "drive". Purely because you've got more noise coming through. You can hear the exhaust better, which tells you what the engine is doing (as well as feeling for it). When the top's down, the rush of wind adds to the sensation of speed.

The ride in my roadster was harsher, but that's because of its setup. My coupe has a soft set up with its bushes and tyres, so its not a like for like comparison.

Experience-wise.. I still much prefer the Coupe, and I like the auto box with paddles more than the manual. They're nicer to look at and you don't have to worry about the roof motor dying on you. And they're less likely to get broken into.
Face-lift models (post 06) are also more powerful and it's definitely noticeable

Overall: I wouldn't get another roadster unless it was an M

Yeah, really loved the roadster the short time I had it, particular going across the mendip hills on the way home with the roof down.

I think I would consider the coupe for the boot space, not entirely sure about the look, but have only actually seen one in the flesh on the motorway so not for long. Would definitely miss having the sky as a roof though.
 
Ouch!!

What a teriable situation for all involved. I know he is the alleged bad guy gear. But your son must be having s sh1tty time to do this. Time is a healer and I hope you and him sort things out.

And bloody well done for not not braiding him!!

As for the car. Write off I would think but 100% diy fixable.
 
Machine monkey said:
Ouch!!

What a teriable situation for all involved. I know he is the alleged bad guy gear. But your son must be having s sh1tty time to do this. Time is a healer and I hope you and him sort things out.

And bloody well done for not not braiding him!!

As for the car. Write off I would think but 100% diy fixable.

Thanks and hopefully so on the son front.

On the car front, was simply thinking of letting them take it, but from the comments I am getting on here, now beginning to wonder how much it would cost be for a complete set of panels, doors, windows and a front and back light, gotta still be pretty expensive right?
 
Mike (DLV) had asked £75 per front wing yesterday - I still say that a DIY fix may be less than the excess and increased premiums. Unlike a traffic accident you know the car is 'straight' with no damage to running gear and you know (and love) its history. Bit of a project but you'll love it even more and plenty of people to offer advise and I would guess help. Good luck
 
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