Locking wheel nut

JOE90

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Hi all,

I'm getting new tyres fitted this weekend and I can't seem to find the locking wheel nut ?, which brings me on to my next question , there doesn't seem to be a spare wheel in the boot and I don’t have run flats , so I'd be pretty f**ked eh ? ...

Cheers

Joe
 
A good tyre fitter could still get them off by forcing a tool on there.

And no there isn't a spare wheel, get some Holtz tyre weld and keep it in the boot. or the BMW mobility kit
 
Go to your local BMW garage, they'll happily sell you one that matches the nut. So long as it's an OEM one of course!
 
playalistic said:
Go to your local BMW garage, they'll happily sell you one that matches the nut. So long as it's an OEM one of course!
Which is precisely why I changed to a more secure nut on mine, I'm under the impression that bmw has used the same 20 odd designs since the 80s...
 
tjlazer said:
playalistic said:
Go to your local BMW garage, they'll happily sell you one that matches the nut. So long as it's an OEM one of course!
Which is precisely why I changed to a more secure nut on mine, I'm under the impression that bmw has used the same 20 odd designs since the 80s...

Hmm, good point :thumbsup:
 
tjlazer said:
playalistic said:
Go to your local BMW garage, they'll happily sell you one that matches the nut. So long as it's an OEM one of course!
Which is precisely why I changed to a more secure nut on mine, I'm under the impression that bmw has used the same 20 odd designs since the 80s...

A guy down my parents road had the wheels from his M6 stolen outside his house while he was sleeping at night.... police said that it was getting more common.. esp with very few different locking key combinations.

I have the bmw ones and some mcguard on mine.
 
Well at the end of the day as has already been suggested, any incompetent nitwit with a set of mole grips or a socket they can jam on is going to get off your precious locking nut, so it will only stop the odd opportunist at the end of the day.

I've had to remove several different types and never had a moments difficulty. So I guess it doesn't really matter what you use. :)
 
lacroupade said:
Well at the end of the day as has already been suggested, any incompetent nitwit with a set of mole grips or a socket they can jam on is going to get off your precious locking nut, so it will only stop the odd opportunist at the end of the day.

I've had to remove several different types and never had a moments difficulty. So I guess it doesn't really matter what you use. :)

Unlike the BMW ones my mccguard ones have a spinning outter ring, so attaching a smaller socket on top wouldnt allow you to remove them.

However anyone determined enough could drill them off... but then the noise and time required for that would make it more difficult to steal the wheels.
 
JOE90, mine was tucked away near the battery ( below and to the right) in a small black pouch which also contained the tow hook - worth having a good search.

I just bent my adaptor by being a ham-fisted ar$e and over tightening with it not properly inserted.

Local dealer leant me theirs to use on their forecourt (they had a full set of say 30 different ones in a case), and then happend to have a new set in stock - 4 bolts and a new adaptor (lucikly the same design as mine) for about £20.
 
Yep I got the mcguard spinning locks as well, if you check out the comparisons against standard locking nuts they hold up a damn sight better. Only about £30 in halfords for peace of mind
 
Guiseley said:
JOE90, mine was tucked away near the battery ( below and to the right) in a small black pouch which also contained the tow hook - worth having a good search.

I just bent my adaptor by being a ham-fisted ar$e and over tightening with it not properly inserted.

Local dealer leant me theirs to use on their forecourt (they had a full set of say 30 different ones in a case), and then happend to have a new set in stock - 4 bolts and a new adaptor (lucikly the same design as mine) for about £20.
The BMW set comprises closer to 100 different variations - parts dept had to try most of them on my wheels before finding the correct one after the previous owner had mislaid the adaptor...
 
aquazi said:
lacroupade said:
Well at the end of the day as has already been suggested, any incompetent nitwit with a set of mole grips or a socket they can jam on is going to get off your precious locking nut, so it will only stop the odd opportunist at the end of the day.

I've had to remove several different types and never had a moments difficulty. So I guess it doesn't really matter what you use. :)

Unlike the BMW ones my mccguard ones have a spinning outter ring, so attaching a smaller socket on top wouldnt allow you to remove them.

However anyone determined enough could drill them off... but then the noise and time required for that would make it more difficult to steal the wheels.

I thought that, but then my McGuard head rounded off so I was stuffed. Garage had it off with a socket set and bar in about 5 minutes. So the outer ring makes not alot of difference. (I had that exact same time)
 
Hark said:
I thought that, but then my McGuard head rounded off so I was stuffed. Garage had it off with a socket set and bar in about 5 minutes. So the outer ring makes not alot of difference. (I had that exact same time)

In a previous car of mine i had the head of my mcguard nuts sheer off... and like you said the garage had them off in 5 mins (but drilled them off).

Nothing is full proof; but the 5 mins + the extra noise it takes to break them off could be the difference between having your wheels stolen or not (compared to the bmw ones when all it takes is getting an extra key and they silently removing them)
 
aquazi said:
Hark said:
I thought that, but then my McGuard head rounded off so I was stuffed. Garage had it off with a socket set and bar in about 5 minutes. So the outer ring makes not alot of difference. (I had that exact same time)



Nothing is full proof; but the 5 mins + the extra noise it takes to break them off could be the difference between having your wheels stolen or not (compared to the bmw ones when all it takes is getting an extra key and they silently removing them)
Totally agree mate.

And it was extremely noisey. Made me cringe.
 
BMW's factory fit locking nut, mcguards and mcguards ultras. The tyre fitters always think I am mad.

Just accumulated them over various M cars.
 
There's some on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170493071108

described as McGard SU 12mmx1.5mm 28mm Thread 60° Tapered Lock Bolts

which *might* be 28172 if this is a full list
http://www.mcgard.com/files/pdf/LockBoltRef2009.pdf
without going and taking a bolt out I couldn't say if I've got cone or radius seat bolts
but I'd guess cone which would mean 28172 is wrong

edit:
http://www.mcgard.com/Applications/AutomotiveSearch/
they do have a search function by vehicle and for BMW Z4 (03-09) they say
27178 (black?) or 27179 (silver?) although the 27179 at halfords.com look silver
 
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