You say that but they took the ammo off them just in caseronk said:
plus there were a number of them removed for being Trump supporters
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plus there were a number of them removed for being Trump supportersFlyingfifer said:You say that but they took the ammo off them just in caseronk said:
They were removed after vetting by the National Guard's own internal process with assistance from the FBI. This is perfectly normal at such high profile events in the US. There is no publically available information that tells us specifically why they were removed only that it was for "questionable behaviour". I believe they numbered around 25 so no big deal given there were more than 25,000 in town.
ronk said:
Looks scary to us but again, they have the right to do this, open carry is perfectly legal in the US. Also as I said before there have been numerous examples of murders and violence at these events.
Of course ideally no one would need to do this but please dont believe for a minute this is only a one sided issue, the Dems/BLM/Anitfa also do this...
Really gets the noggin joggin when you start to wonder why only one is a problem and the other is just "mostly peaceful"
Attleborough, Norfolk
I look at all these numpties, of every political persuasion, race, colour or creed and only one thing unites them all.
Not a single one would be allowed near the real military, nor would most of them stay the course of basic training.
Same set of sad wannabes in the UK, but luckily we don't let them (legally) carry weapons.
Just my opinion of course, which will no doubt immediately be refuted by swathes of social media extracts.
Not a single one would be allowed near the real military, nor would most of them stay the course of basic training.
Same set of sad wannabes in the UK, but luckily we don't let them (legally) carry weapons.
Just my opinion of course, which will no doubt immediately be refuted by swathes of social media extracts.
What really gets the 'noggin joggin' is how those who protest against Biden talk about their freedom of speech, their constitutional rights etc but then very conveniently ignore the fact the Trump lost and Biden did not - this is because many millions stuck with the democratic process and voted. Why is that do hard to accept ?? Many legal challenges later and with Senior republicans accepting defeat Trump (telling governors they need to find votes) he still can't. His reckoning is long due...
Z4paul said:
oof, lots of low information going on there.
So firstly to call this a guaranteed free and fair election is either intellectually dishonest or simply misinformed. There are swathes of deeply questionable events that went on throughout the election that seriously calls into question its validity, more votes than voters, people being arrested for ballot harvesting, counting agents being refused entry and then being kept 10s of feet away from the count preventing them from actually checking, counts being "stopped" then after everyone left the count is resumed and suddenly huge spikes of votes for Biden come in.
In terms of the law suits, a large number were actually private and nothing to do with Trump for a start. Also, many of these were thrown out of court on technicalities, for example an absence of "standing" which in its most basic description is the ability to prove that you have been directly "wronged". There were also cases thrown out for coming too early, others for coming too late.
The "find votes" comment was, shock horror, taken out of context and blasted round by the MSM as a smoking gun.
The most telling question here is simple, if this was 100% legitimate and there was absolutely nothing nefarious going on then surely to clear up any possible accusations and to promote "unity" the Dems should have wholeheartedly supported the investigation and defeat of any claims being made, instead they fought relentlessly to prevent investigations from taking place at all. As such you have half the country now having serious doubts that the election was fair and all those really suspicious circumstances are now beyond investigation and legitimate scrutiny.
True, but it's a pretty dim fish that keeps jumping back on the same hook. :wink:inkey$ said:Unbeatable. And bored of the baiting masquerading as genuine inquiry.enuff_zed said:1000rr said:
Read the thread several times and still can't find a comment that beats this one.
Flyingfifer said:
If you actually look at what I said,Willie, they may well be illegal,It didn't stop them being openly brandished,and many of them looked very like assault rifles,as has been said elsewhere in the thread.
You're splitting hairs tbh!!
I was meaning at alot of Trump Rallies and voting stations,there was a high turnout of Right wing groups brandishing pretty heavy hardware (as in pretty serious guns, before you ask for clarification). intimidating voters by Harassing them for an answer if they were voting for trump,while brandishing large Guns.
Intimidating voters,by all intents and purposes.
I will not dispute rhe Fact that there were also many instances of similar Radical groups of African American militia type organisations brandishing guns while marching.
Neither are in the right.
I find Trump's actions despicable in the way he has caused such Major divisions in his own country,by his actions over the past 4 years....and I don't need to quote links to back it up,it's been out there for all to see for long enough.
To a point where alot of Americans are embarrassed at calling themselves American.
Fact.
America has always had its troubles,Gun violence etc and Radical groups on both sides,as we're all aware,but Trump has spent 4 years stirring up trouble by his actions,and making things worse,imo.
Or are we not allowed an Opinion if it differs from yours??
Since you attack everyone who posts something that you don't agree with?!!
Also,re the intimidating of voters,it was all over Main stream (American)media at the time,but clearly you don't believe what you see in pictures.
And you talk about America in such a way that sounds as if you visit often?
Genuine question,do you spend alot of time in the U.S.A or are you just going on your opinion of what you read and choose to believe??
Re your point about Stabbings, assault and murder of Trump supporters,it's funny how you fail to mention the higher number of BLM.and other African Americans who were stabbed,Assaulted and Killed,during this whole Election,etc.
Or don't they count?
I am not saying Trump is all bad,he has done some good,but for me,the bad far outweighs any good he may have done.
Neither is Bidden perfect,but I do hope he can stop America going on as it is,with what Trump has most definitely fuelled the fire with his actions.
And you talk about corruption in this Election,lol.
Trumps own appointed Senators,Judges,etc etc found No proof of vote rigging.
Likewise,with the Numerous allegations of how Trump got voted in,re vote rigging by Russian backed groups.
No proof,on either side,but plenty of allegations and opinions.
Trump is as corrupt as the next politician,and more so than many.
If things don't improve and both Political parties don't get together to try and build bridges (as opposed to walls), then the U.S.A could well tear itself apart,which isn't good.
There was a guy in his 60s on U.S TV last week,who looked like any normal,sane person,until he got asked by the reporter on his thoughts of local rioting as a Trump supporter(he was wearing a Vote Trump hat), to which he replied....I woukd join them if I was a bit younger(in rioting), and Would go as far as bombing Joe Bidden.
Wtf!!
Sums up some American Trump fans,tbh.
Also,Trump acts like a spoilt child,by throwing his toys out the pram regularly,bullying others when he doesn't get his own way, and by not Showing up to the Inauguration is just plain immature!
Barrack Obama didn't like Trump,bit he didn't boycott his Inauguration.
Nor did he set the world on fire,so to speak before Trump took over,as Trump has.
He's left the incoming President a nightmare to deal with.
End of.
craig3.2 said:
So you're claiming that they are brandishing illegal weapons at protests/rallies/marches in front of the police?
Incorrect. This isnt splitting hairs its being accurate, "assault rifles" are always used to stoke fear and concern as its an emotive term, the reality is that these may look like military grade weapons but they are not they are functionally different and as I mentioned before while seeing that may be shocking to our sensibilities, guns are very much a normal part of daily life for the US and as I have already pointed out can you blame them considering the violence, attempted and actual murders that have taken place at these things!? A Trump supporter was literally executed in the street, he was just walking, he was doing nothing but that red cap marked him for death.
craig3.2 said:
Rallies are irrelevant to your claim here, those are rallies before the election not polling places during it.
Personally I didnt see any examples of right wing groups intimidating voters, again though, if you could provide some examples I would be very interested to see them! I suspect that like in the UK the intimidation of voters is illegal and therefore anyone doing so would have been dealt with by the police and the polling station security guards.
craig3.2 said:
Do you mean BLM?
I agree but again, the US has a totally different relationship with guns and as such while being alien and illegal to us, not the case in the US.
craig3.2 said:
Interesting, so "X is true because everyone can see X is true, prove X? I dont need to because everyone can see that X is true" sound logic there.
The MSM (main stream media) are largely responsible for the Major divisions, they spent 4 years making every single thing Trump done or said into some sort of monstrous attack on A/B/C groups regardless of what the truth actually was. Did Trump say dumb stuff? Absolutely! But is he worse than Adolf as the MSM would have you believe? No.
craig3.2 said:
Yes it does but again, can you actually demonstrate where Trump has done this? I have seen countless examples where its been claimed he has but in literally every. single. case, its been a misrepresentation of the truth by the MSM to spin a narrative.
craig3.2 said:
Of course you are, but if you post it to a public forum be prepared to have it challenged. Weird, here was me thinking this was discussing/debating... should I have a flack vest on?
Ideal! Then it should be SUPER easy for you to show mecraig3.2 said:
I dont really consume MSM.
Do you know all you know about cars because you visited the factories often, spoke to the engineers and designers or are you just going off the opinion of what you have read and choose to believe??craig3.2 said:
craig3.2 said:
Absolutely they count, but I was talking about people killed by their ideological opponents, there were in excess of 19 people killed during the BLM protests as far as I am aware there were also a number of deaths linked to the antifa "protests" also, additionally when they annexed part of various cities my understanding is that drug crime, theft, rape and looting was rampant. Obviously this was largely kept on the down low by MSM becuase it was all "mOsTlY pEaCeFuL"
craig3.2 said:
Seems you missed my previous post about how many of the lawsuits firstly were nothing to do with Trump or his team and secondly were thrown out on technicalities like lack of standing or being filed too soon or too late.
craig3.2 said:
Interestingly you missed off an important part here.... plenty of investigations and actual attempts to find the truth! Something that 70million or so Trump voters have been denied. Surely the Just and Honourable Dems will put political allegiance aside and vote for a full investigation with the same veracity as was the case for Trump and Russia..... No?
craig3.2 said:
Absolutely barmy I know, have you heard any of the Q-Anon guy speaking (the dude with the horns on in the capitol riot) the guy is away with it! You know its bad when Alex Jones thinks youre mental
[youtube]LAXHdivDETI[/youtube]I do find it interesting though that while you are quick to point out the madness of some Trump supporters you are silent when it comes to the democratic elected officials that called for riots and taking out trump?
craig3.2 said:
The dems did that.
Look at how antifa are now being clamped down on by dem mayors etc, they were allowed to literally run riot in the lead up to the election with they mayors telling their police to stand down and not interfere but now that its over they are taking steps to quash the movement... good luck getting that particular genie back in the bottle. They were rioting on wednesday there... wonder if you knew that? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-inauguration-portland-prote-idUSKBN29Q0H9
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