I thought my 911'ness was cured
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RMS seals are really the smallest problem you will ever encounter on the M96...
Bore scoring,D chunking,IMS failure,chain failure are all usually engine finishing events...And all due to bad engineering design..
And no way is it 1% of engines... There are companies out there making a fantastic living at rebuilding M96's,usually at around £8000 a pop,and thats just in the UK..
Having owned 2 911's myself and being an automotive technician for 28 years i know the engine problems are very real,and if you do own the car when your engine fails then you will have a severely damaged bank balance..
Just for info..... The 2006 997 with 40k had full Porsche history and was sold from a Porsche dealership with one previous owner.. Have a look on 911uk and see the thread,its entertainining and heartbreaking all at the same time..
Bore scoring,D chunking,IMS failure,chain failure are all usually engine finishing events...And all due to bad engineering design..
And no way is it 1% of engines... There are companies out there making a fantastic living at rebuilding M96's,usually at around £8000 a pop,and thats just in the UK..
Having owned 2 911's myself and being an automotive technician for 28 years i know the engine problems are very real,and if you do own the car when your engine fails then you will have a severely damaged bank balance..
Just for info..... The 2006 997 with 40k had full Porsche history and was sold from a Porsche dealership with one previous owner.. Have a look on 911uk and see the thread,its entertainining and heartbreaking all at the same time..
Stuart Truman said:
The radiators should be treated as a routine 3yr or 30/50k maintenance item , that's well known & is around £400/500 for the front 2( unless garaged & never driven in the wet )
The other MAJOR on the water cooled engines is getting oil circulating at low revs & temp before even thinking about blipping the throttle .
It is a design flaw of a dry sump but can be avoided with owner awareness .
What worries me buying a 2nd hand one is not knowing just who has sat in the drivers seat & revved it when cold or dry to show a neighbour/friend whoever & chaffed the hell out of the internals with no lubrication :evil:
On the major engine failure rate ? approx 5% of all affected units manufactured by porsche is the number i found through majority of magazine articles but this figure is always a guess as porsche will not publish numbers
tomscott said:
Still pointing at planes?
1% figure was UK cars. The companies are also making plenty of money out of scared owners wanting to make sure non of the problems will occur. There was a good buy your first 911 article in 911 & Porsche world and in Top marques recently, yes there are problems but like I said pretty bad experiences, but doesn't happen to all of them. There is design flaw, but looked after properly and if you have a good understanding of the possible things that can go wrong then you should be fine.
Z4M-2006 said:
Really?!?
Another reason not to buy one then.
Stuart Truman said:Z4M-2006 said:
Really?!?
Another reason not to buy one then.
Can also be used in your favour when buying though 8)
It should be no real surprise , Big money cars come with big bills .
A lot of problems now are the 996/boxster water cooled did sell in big numbers & can be bought used for focus/mondeo money by folks who think an oil change every 15k will suffice :| well it won't & 911's are just like any other car . When the years & miles roll on the repair costs escalate .
here's to happy zedding / affordable performance cars
So do Ferrari, but they're fearsomely unreliable and expensive to run
tomscott said:
Nah, driven a C2S on a track and couldn't get on with it. The next dumb purchase will either be an Aston or a Ferrari. Need to pay off my house first though. Nearly there then I can buy whatever I want guilt free
My main beef with Porsche is that they are not doing anything paticularly well and charge you a fortune for the privilege..
The engines aren't as powerfull per CC as there German rivals,gearboxes are poor, fit and finish isn't great..
Ok, they handle well and Porsche have a superb marketing department. That's it though..
What makes the 911 warrant its huge price tag ? I dunno?
From an engineering standpoint, it certainly lacks way behind its rivals.
The engines aren't as powerfull per CC as there German rivals,gearboxes are poor, fit and finish isn't great..
Ok, they handle well and Porsche have a superb marketing department. That's it though..
What makes the 911 warrant its huge price tag ? I dunno?
From an engineering standpoint, it certainly lacks way behind its rivals.
Oh yes, a Ferrari would be lovely, but not yet and not a 355. To steal Bing's mantra; Gotta stick to the plan.
Z4M-2006 said:
The 360 is more affordable to run. The 355 is appreciating in value now, I was looking the other day. It's amazing what acquiring access to a local secure garage will do to a mans imagination
Stuart Truman said:Z4M-2006 said:
Really?!?
Another reason not to buy one then.
Correct, Porsche will not sell you a 2 hand GT3 if its been overeved more than 3 times (I think or 6 maybe).
On the OP's post, nice cars 911 but just way too pbvious and common tbh. Prices are a bit silly just because they have been in trend forthe last 10 yrs. In 1999 you could buy a 964 or 993 for peanuts, just like you could buy a E30 M3 for £5k. bloody buying consortiums :evil:
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Z4M-2006 said:
The only way to over-rev the car is if you change down from 5th to 2nd, of course you can rev it up :roll: , right "up" to the rev-limiter (same on any car)
A PDK car in auto all the time is impossible to over-rev.