I thought my 911'ness was cured

I do love a good Porsche ass actually, you make a very valid point mr wilks :thumbsup:

It is the front, and the interior, that I can't love - though I think the latest models' interiors are much better now ?

And the noise is amazing - standing outside the office early in the morning in the City, at least one goes by on it's way to a bank car park, and it always makes me smile :D

Still don't want one though :D
 
mr wilks said:
Gorgeous isn't OTT . a design icon nobody can argue with , 911 = legendary sports car
especially when viewed directly from the rear :oops:
the voluptuous flanks not unlike the Z just way more pronounced :wink:
even with the now relative commonness on the roads i still find myself drawn to them .
& this is probably THE holy grail for me http://www.motorstown.com/images/porsche-993-01.jpg . nice to have a dream :thumbsup:
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Now THAT is a 911 I'd love to own :wub:
 
My very dirty 991S today, that's the good thing about silver looks clean from a few feet away



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The last 911 I liked was was the wide bodied turbo they made in the 80s. Then again the last music I liked was also made in the 80s as was the last shoes I liked, the last jeans I liked - I think you get the idea. :roll:
 
GreyZed said:
The last 911 I liked was was the wide bodied turbo they made in the 80s. Then again the last music I liked was also made in the 80s as was the last shoes I liked, the last jeans I liked - I think you get the idea. :roll:
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you've just awoken from a 25 year coma? :P
 
JaEdBa said:
GreyZed said:
The last 911 I liked was was the wide bodied turbo they made in the 80s. Then again the last music I liked was also made in the 80s as was the last shoes I liked, the last jeans I liked - I think you get the idea. :roll:
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you've just awoken from a 25 year coma? :P
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Nah I'm just a sad eighties throwback. I think I just had such a bloody blast in the last 3 years of that decade that nothing has equalled it since. I live in hope though! :wink:
 
I still have a 911 itch. trying so hard not to scratch it,but can see one on my drive at some stage in the future. I'd love a Turbo,so it'd have to be a 996,but a 997.2 C4S would be stunning. You have to ignore the doom mongers and enjoy the thing,if it breaks, you get it fixed. Get it fixed properly and it will be a reliable friend.Buy one to keep for a long time and you'll get value out of it.One day................... :D
 
bigshurv said:
You have to ignore the doom mongers and enjoy the thing,if it breaks, you get it fixed.
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This is SO true IMO.

I find that because I frequent car forums I spend a lot of time reading about reliability problems and how to buy the manufacturer warranties - but I know a great deal many people who own and run cars (which some owners spend their lives shitting themselves about on the internet) without reading a review and without significant issues.

It is the one thing that upsets me about forums. If we all adhered to every word written on some pages, we'd never own any of these excellent sports cars!! The doom mongers would still be in their caves...
 
miln0039 said:
bigshurv said:
You have to ignore the doom mongers and enjoy the thing,if it breaks, you get it fixed.
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This is SO true IMO.

I find that because I frequent car forums I spend a lot of time reading about reliability problems and how to buy the manufacturer warranties - but I know a great deal many people who own and run cars (which some owners spend their lives shitting themselves about on the internet) without reading a review and without significant issues.

It is the one thing that upsets me about forums. If we all adhered to every word written on some pages, we'd never own any of these excellent sports cars!! The doom mongers would still be in their caves...
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Having exactly the same arguement with myself right now . i want something newer.more comforts & quicker to replace my transit & like the look of vivaro's/primastar/traffic van's which all share the same build & known issues , found a great 2007 van locally but after spending an afternoon googling the various forum's i feel like i would be buying a ticking bomb & am now thinking of running my stalwart transit till it dies .
Information is great but sometimes it can play on your mind in a negative way :headbang:
 
Z4M-2006 said:
Ha ha...

At least you know a man who can fix them....lol...
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Haha ,yeah & thanks Gary . Was all set to go seal the deal this saturday when i read pages of woe from owners of all miles/years , usual stuff you mentioned plus much much more :P now bewildered & thinking of washing my transit to make it white again :thumbsup:
 
Yea....

The one you found sounds a good van...

Yes they can go wrong,but a new shape transit is just as bad....
 
The problems are well documented and affect so few 911s most are checked at service intervals. My dads had the RMS seal replaced in its first major service by Porsche just as a precautionary measure as its not a problem that you can see.

Cars that are well maintained and driven properly should have no issues at all, whereas cars that sit have been more prone. Water cooled 2002 cars and onwards should be fine as long as they have been properly maintained.
 
Not strictly true that Tom....

Loads of people having trouble with 996.2's,997/1's....

The last 2 engine rebuild threads on 911uk are 2002> cars.. And just before xmas there was a 2006 997 that totally tied itself in a ball with 40k on the clock.. £20,000 estimated bill from the OPC...
 
Z4M-2006 said:
Not strictly true that Tom....

Loads of people having trouble with 996.2's,997/1's....

The last 2 engine rebuild threads on 911uk are 2002> cars.. And just before xmas there was a 2006 997 that totally tied itself in a ball with 40k on the clock.. £20,000 estimated bill from the OPC...
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:fuelfire:

? :wink:
 
Its like anything you only hear about the ones that epically fail, 911 and porsche world have quoted that 1% of cars made have been affected by the problems.

I suggest that the ones that have gone like the one you have quoted, haven't been looked after correctly 40k on a 6yo car is not a lot say its been doing short journeys not being warmed up properly and abused. Unfortunately you will never know because the owner will say he did everything possible for these problems not to occur. Depends where they have been serviced too, like I said it is checked at service intervals, by porsche dealers or by the reputable specialists. The seal on the 997 is better than the 996 and is usually replaced with the newer seal, but they do give you instruction on how to reduce the possibility of it happening. Like I described above.

But you can be scare mongered all you like, like I said you only ever here about the ones that epically fail and the amount it happens compared to the amount of cars produced is small.

The problem has been blown up by the internet forums, yes there are problems but as long as you knowledgeable about them problems can be avoided.
 
Actually a friend got a 996 C4S approved used and thank god it has a warranty. It's had a bloomin' fortunes worth of warranty work done. Radiators, plus substantial engine and gearbox work. It's really taken the edge off it.

Another chum's gen 2 997 C2S has also spent 2 weeks off the road for repairs.

We have a moan and a honk about BMW quality, but I don't think they're alone with their issues
 
Its easy to say they are unreliable and they will all explode.... but its the risk you take in buying any high performance car. I seem to remember reading some awful posts on the internet about early S54s blowing up in M3s, defective vanos with costly rebuilds, M5 engine and gear box problems costing 12k+ to fix.

Happens everywhere doesnt mean it will happen to you. Also a warranty is a must for me anyway no way I would buy any car without one, because if something catastrophic happens you are left with big bills. Possibly more than the cars worth.
 
Nice looking cars but does seem like a lot of bother, hassle and expense for essentially something you see all the time on the roads.
 
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