Honda Civic Diesel - picking up this weekend - pls advise!!

dan yeates said:
shawna said:
For an 08 with 69K miles you should not pay 1 cent more than 5200-5600.

Really?!

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/...000&MileageTo=70000&YearFrom=2008&YearTo=2008

2008, 60,000 to 70,000 miles suggests £7,000 to £8,000 asking price.

Yes really.

I buy quite a lot a month. I know the prices like the back of my hand. They are not popular anymore 2.2CTDi's. Expect a huge drop in price next month - as i said they are not worth more than i told you on the forecourt.

Guide pricing
CAP Glass's
New: £ 16,305 New: £ 16,305
Ret: £ 6,895 Ret: £ 7,530
Cln: £ 5,400
Avg: £ 5,333 75K 5+ Avg: £ 4,925 Trd: £ 5,765
Blw: £ 4,425
 
shawna said:
dan yeates said:
shawna said:
For an 08 with 69K miles you should not pay 1 cent more than 5200-5600.

Really?!

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/...000&MileageTo=70000&YearFrom=2008&YearTo=2008

2008, 60,000 to 70,000 miles suggests £7,000 to £8,000 asking price.

Yes really.

I buy quite a lot a month. I know the prices like the back of my hand. They are not popular anymore 2.2CTDi's. Expect a huge drop in price next month - as i said they are not worth more than i told you on the forecourt.

Guide pricing
CAP Glass's
New: £ 16,305 New: £ 16,305
Ret: £ 6,895 Ret: £ 7,530
Cln: £ 5,400
Avg: £ 5,333 75K 5+ Avg: £ 4,925 Trd: £ 5,765
Blw: £ 4,425

Could you give some rationale to what you were saying above: not popular anymore. Are you in the car sales business in the UK? Sorry if I missed other threads with that info.
The prices thing is interesting (and scary, argh!) but I would want some more info on why the 2.2 diesel is apparently not so popular please?
 
Oh, I also picked up the car today. New car name needed. Drove it back on the stupid A40, and then M25 for a light hooning. Was quite delightful. Only done two journeys today so too early to know all is okay. But am feeling alright and thanks for the advice guys :thumbsup:
 
My "sensible car" is the 2.2 civic . There is not a lot that will give you the same performance with the same fuel economy (for the money) although it isn't particularly exciting to drive

On the clutch - mine started slipping at 45k and 6 years old .Honda replaced it FOC after I rang Honda UK and explained how disappointed I was that a car with Honda's legendary reliability should have such a major (and well documented) failure at such low mileage .
As with BMW and a lot of the known faults on the Z4 ,Honda will not acknowledge that there is a problem although they have upgraded the clutch 3 times to try and cure the problem
 
Oakandacorns said:
dan yeates said:
For an 08 with 69K miles you should not pay 1 cent more than 5200-5600.

Really?!

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/...000&MileageTo=70000&YearFrom=2008&YearTo=2008

2008, 60,000 to 70,000 miles suggests £7,000 to £8,000 asking price.


bluestreak56 said:
where did you get the prices above?

Could you give some rationale to what you were saying above: not popular anymore. Are you in the car sales business in the UK? Sorry if I missed other threads with that info.
The prices thing is interesting (and scary, argh!) but I would want some more info on why the 2.2 diesel is apparently not so popular please?

Hi yes we are in the car business obviously I would not stay buying loads of cars to keep for myself.

I just wanted to give you the heads up.

As i said few people are buying the 2.2 anymore - they are just not popular with a plunge in the prices seen the last couple of weeks.

Attached is an example today which sold lower than the asking price.

This car was in great condition.

Although its slighlty higher mileage than yours its only 14k miles which in the scheme of things only makes 200-300 pounds.

 
Is that print out for people in the business? As in wholesale price, or whatever it's called?

Computer told me I averaged 48mpg home, mixed driving so I am pleased.
 
andy6409 said:
My "sensible car" is the 2.2 civic . There is not a lot that will give you the same performance with the same fuel economy (for the money) although it isn't particularly exciting to drive

On the clutch - mine started slipping at 45k and 6 years old .Honda replaced it FOC after I rang Honda UK and explained how disappointed I was that a car with Honda's legendary reliability should have such a major (and well documented) failure at such low mileage .
As with BMW and a lot of the known faults on the Z4 ,Honda will not acknowledge that there is a problem although they have upgraded the clutch 3 times to try and cure the problem

Sensible. Then's it not all souped up. Cool.
The on-board computer said that the average mpg home today was about 47mpg with traffic and mixed roads so I'm please so far! It's been fun-ish to drive, has some beans you know!! How long have you had yours? :thumbsup:
 
Oakandacorns said:
Is that print out for people in the business? As in wholesale price, or whatever it's called?

Hi thats the trade price.

But What i was trying to explain was that the trade prices are not reflective of the market values as they have shot down.

Now can i delete the proof please? :D

As i tried to explain on the first page, they are very good cars though they heavily understeer with a penchant for cluthces solved partially post 2007 by a mod in the flywheel and post 09 by another mod.

Best of motoring luck. :thumbsup:
 
shawna said:
Oakandacorns said:
Is that print out for people in the business? As in wholesale price, or whatever it's called?

Hi thats the trade price.

But What i was trying to explain was that the trade prices are not reflective of the market values as they have shot down.

Now can i delete the proof please? :D

Tehe.
And huh, what about trade prices not reflective of market values? Are you saying market values not related directly to trade price as public purchasers drive that>? Sorry my brain mashed after 3 weeks holiday :)
 
Oakandacorns said:
shawna said:
Oakandacorns said:
Is that print out for people in the business? As in wholesale price, or whatever it's called?

Hi thats the trade price.

But What i was trying to explain was that the trade prices are not reflective of the market values as they have shot down.

Now can i delete the proof please? :D

Tehe.
And huh, what about trade prices not reflective of market values? Are you saying market values not related directly to trade price as public purchasers drive that>? Sorry my brain mashed after 3 weeks holiday :)

Sometimes lack of demand drives the trade prices down.

Theory of supply and demand in this case supply is always ample with demand rock bottom hence the trade prices are not in parallel with the retail prices.

Also kindly try demisting your cabin (Air con check) as that is another thing which is problematic.
 
How do I do an air con check?

I saw mist by VIN number at bottom of windscreen and asked the garage to sort out. (Friend noticed same on others). Is still there a little.
 
Get some water vapour in the car. This will condense on the inside of the windscreen, then with the windows STILL closed put on the air con and see if it disappears within 5 secs.

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How long have you had yours?
Had mine 4 years
In that time the clutch has gone (as in previous post).
The battery went flat and lost the memory from the ECU requiring a tow to the dealer to be reprogrammed. Apparently now sorted with a software update
The aircon failed which was a £15 relay and is a common fault (updated part now) .The dealer wanted £20 labour to fit the relay but when I said I would do it myself the mechanic just fitted it FOC
Sensible. Then's it not all souped up. Cool.
I was going to get it remapped when I got it but after reading about the weak clutch decided against it .
You can get them to out perform the type R but keep the fuel economy with a Celtic tuning map but need a modified clutch fitting to take the torque
 
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