High Flow Air Filter

sumotan said:
Hi Gents,
Is anyone using the above to replace the oem filter for Sdrive28i ?

Thanks

I’ve got a k&n panel filter in my 20i, it’s been used for approx 4 years now with no issues :thumbsup:
Rob
 
Rob, there has been previous talk about oiled filters messing up the MAF etc.
I can only assume from your comment that this has had no effect on yours.
That aside, after 4 years, do you see any benefit? Would you do it again?
 
I have KN on my 23i. Had about 5-6 years now. I did go back and try a Bosch, but the car felt draggy on acceleration, so went back to KN.
I do clean it every 6 months with the absolute minimum of reoiling. In fact i make a fuel/oil mix so that only a thin film of oil is left behind. I also clean the maf sensor with cleaner.
 
I ordered Pipecross for my E85 2.5i , I had Pipercross air filters in almost all my cars and even in my Vespa, and I am very happy with them. This filter goes into the regular airbox.
 
General consensus from several forums /articles is that modern air boxes and high quality OE type filters are the way to go.

Several tests have shown little if no real improvement in performance using the K+N type filters and the level of particles passed by these filters is excessive and when associated oil analysis tests have been done show high levels of silicon (ie dirt) in the oil.

I know this flies in the face of 40+ years of K+N marketing but I did have a very good look at this from three different vehicle perspectives and that was the summary data..

So Mahle, Mann, Wix filters come out well..

KN-Filter-Chart.jpg
 
Pbondar said:
General consensus from several forums /articles is that modern air boxes and high quality OE type filters are the way to go.

Several tests have shown little if no real improvement in performance using the K+N type filters and the level of particles passed by these filters is excessive and when associated oil analysis tests have been done show high levels of silicon (ie dirt) in the oil.

I know this flies in the face of 40+ years of K+N marketing but I did have a very good look at this from three different vehicle perspectives and that was the summary data..

So Mahle, Mann, Wix filters come out well..
enuff_zed said:
Thanks all, think that may be next on the list then,

Or...........................maybe not. :roll: :D
 
sumotan said:
Hi Rob thanks again, did you find any improvement in performance like better throttle response ?

Cheers

There was a small improvement of approximately 97bhp, although i did get the car remapped at the same time so it’s difficult to say which produced the largest gain :P
Rob
 
Smartbear said:
sumotan said:
Hi Rob thanks again, did you find any improvement in performance like better throttle response ?

Cheers

There was a small improvement of approximately 97bhp, although i did get the car remapped at the same time so it’s difficult to say which produced the largest gain :P
Rob
:rofl:
Just fell off my chair. :thumbsup:
 
enuff_zed said:
Rob, there has been previous talk about oiled filters messing up the MAF etc.
I can only assume from your comment that this has had no effect on yours.
That aside, after 4 years, do you see any benefit? Would you do it again?

I’ve not had to buy a replacement filter since fitting the k&n, so I’m happy to be saving the planet from being ravaged by all the wanton paper filter production :thumbsup:
Rob
 
I agree with performance - original filter vs aftermarket filters, and with low power cars, it really notices a difference, I know that Pipercross filter gave my girlfriends 2014. 1.2 Fiat 500C a nice throttle response, and we are talking about the car with 69 HP. Having this same filter in the car with 200 HP, you will not notice any improvement but you will have a long term solution that you need to clean and that's it.
 
I think the car can feel different from one day to the next, some days seems lively, other days it just to have a bit of an off day. We can't control the weather or our mental attitude on a particular journey.
 
Pbondar said:
I did have a very good look at this from three different vehicle perspectives and that was the summary data..

Your diagram (very impressive I must say!) is showing the results from one of your cars, or all three of them?
 
The chart was for filters for a Chrysler 4 litre engine as used in Jeeps.

I did quite a bit of research into alternative air intakes and filters for my E89..where the professional consensus was stock intake and stock filter yielded at least equivalent results. Some earlier cars did have some benefits to revised intakes more so with major mods.

Tyre reviews did a very good review on a M3 which showed little if any advantage to these mods.

K+N was never quite as good and worse when dirty..

The amount of dirt sucked in with K+N is my concern.

As someone who has fitted many K+Ns to many motorcycles and cars over the years its a bit of a let down.

When you look at the design of modern air boxes and the size and area of modern filters its not really suprising..IMHO
 
I agree, I don't think there's any benefit with after-market filters or modified intakes as the stock filters aren't a restriction at all.

On the N54 people have removed the filter altogether and done testing that showed no noticeable increase even on tuned vehicles.

Even if the quoted power increases were true for these filters I still wouldn't use them, not worth the additional damage that the extra particulate matter is doing to the engine.
 
Absolutely zero gain to be had from this my friend, never met a serious tuner that would recommend this as a mod.
Might give you a nicer induction sound though!
 
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