GT4, one of the few cars I have thought about swapping to
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abar121
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Loads of discussion about this on SELOC. That car was highly abused, but there are other examples in the UK of cars being written-off after simply hitting a kerb.
By the time you spend a fortune sorting out the cheapo strut rear suspension for track use, shortening the ludicrously long gearing, you might as well have got a GT3. Or a 911 with the same engine.
By the time you spend a fortune sorting out the cheapo strut rear suspension for track use, shortening the ludicrously long gearing, you might as well have got a GT3. Or a 911 with the same engine.
I'm sure some of the issues with the Cayman GT4, particularly strut tops is old news but has been doing the rounds on forums again because an influencer put it on youtube.
To echo comments on another forum, just a quick look at that access road to the garage would be concerning me if I had a car like that! Also it is resurfaced in the new update video...
To echo comments on another forum, just a quick look at that access road to the garage would be concerning me if I had a car like that! Also it is resurfaced in the new update video...
That is horrific, but...
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... some, uh, interesting driving!
Clearly some engineering margins being squeezed here. The follow-up vid has some good chat re. the fix:
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I don't know what to make of this guy. He comes across ok, but then who, with the whole world watching, wipes bird poo off a GT4 with their bare hand and rubs it off on a tyre?
Still want one... :wub:
[youtube]z_WpLON3VSk[/youtube]
... some, uh, interesting driving!
Clearly some engineering margins being squeezed here. The follow-up vid has some good chat re. the fix:
[youtube]YNaFpCseu04[/youtube]
I don't know what to make of this guy. He comes across ok, but then who, with the whole world watching, wipes bird poo off a GT4 with their bare hand and rubs it off on a tyre?
Still want one... :wub:
Definitely!Nictrix said:Why would you post a vid of tracking/crashing your car whilst still under warranty and then hope that Porsche don't watch it when trying to claim for something broken.
They sell it as a 'track capable car', but won't warrant it for track/race use.
I had a similar question from BMW when the engine went on my Z4MC in 2009 - but it hadn't been on track at that point - and it was working fine until they handed it back after an Inspection.
In fact even without the video they could probably tell after inspecting the car whether it had been in the litter or not.mmm-five said:Definitely!Nictrix said:Why would you post a vid of tracking/crashing your car whilst still under warranty and then hope that Porsche don't watch it when trying to claim for something broken.
They sell it as a 'track capable car', but won't warrant it for track/race use.
I had a similar question from BMW when the engine went on my Z4MC in 2009 - but it hadn't been on track at that point - and it was working fine until they handed it back after an Inspection.
Paulwirral
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I'm surprised it took them so long to notice the bonnet was out of alignment, it was the first thing I saw as soon as the video starts .
I'd guess they are trying to force Porsches hand to replace the car by posting the video . It's hard a hard life but it shouldn't have given up like that , it's almost like there's been a bad batch of metal .
I'd guess they are trying to force Porsches hand to replace the car by posting the video . It's hard a hard life but it shouldn't have given up like that , it's almost like there's been a bad batch of metal .
Bodyboarder
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Nictrix said:Why would you post a vid of tracking/crashing your car whilst still under warranty and then hope that Porsche don't watch it when trying to claim for something broken.
Spot on
That damaged was clearly done on that big off he had and then he’s not noticed a crack and carried on driving it . After a bit of time it’s cracked all the way round .
Yes it’s a track car but it’s like saying ‘ I’ve hit a tyre wall and my front bumper needs replacing under warranty ‘
It’s a joke .... and it’s all documented on YouTube , both owner and vlogger didn’t really think this one through , and quite frankly made themselves look like a right couple of prats
Bodyboarder said:Nictrix said:Why would you post a vid of tracking/crashing your car whilst still under warranty and then hope that Porsche don't watch it when trying to claim for something broken.
Spot on
That damaged was clearly done on that big off he had and then he’s not noticed a crack and carried on driving it . After a bit of time it’s cracked all the way round .
Yes it’s a track car but it’s like saying ‘ I’ve hit a tyre wall and my front bumper needs replacing under warranty ‘
It’s a joke .... and it’s all documented on YouTube , both owner and vlogger didn’t really think this one through , and quite frankly made themselves look like a right couple of prats
Great example of the web at its best & worst... the main reason why I’ve declared all my mods & now avoid certain things
I’m extra vigilant in the M, though in a couple of past cars in the dark over winter have twice hit a heavy pothole, damaging tyres & alloys - the body turret never sustained any visible damage.
IMO the wheel should buckle or fracture well before, implying the car’s body should be stronger & potentially there’s a design flaw from the metal being too thin in the pursuit of a lighter car.
buzyg said:
The follow up vid is worth watching. A tech talks through the construction of the subframe/strut assembly in that area and why different materials behave differently under sudden impact load. Steel stretches, aluminium alloys fracture, carbon can break internally. All sounds pretty reasonable to me, as does the estimated repair cost/time of £5k and two weeks. I can believe that a lot of people are driving around in bent steel chassis from the number of alignment results you see that don't quite seem right! He also points out that the strut tower damage was likely secondary to a smaller, initial break around one of the bolts (which is much more common, hence reinforcement rings etc on many motorsports/aftermarket top mounts).
With the 718 GT4/Spyder just round corner, it will be interesting to see whether any reinforcement is added from the factory. If not then I'd assume a combination of arrogance/confidence on Porsche's part. They would probably argue that the whole car is built to similar tolerances and there's no reason they'd make an exception for that particular area when, on the customer side, they could be dealing with anything from a parking ding to a full speed spin sideways into a sausage kerb on a track.
I know right! :lol: Couldn't quite believe what I was seeing!MrPT said:I don't know what to make of this guy. He comes across ok, but then who, with the whole world watching, wipes bird poo off a GT4 with their bare hand and rubs it off on a tyre?
Anyway, aside from all the warranty nonsense (porsche do generally warrant their GT cars knowing full well they've had track usage(search around if you don't believe me), though they do have a get out that's true). It's imo completely unacceptable for a car to fail like that, whether it goes into the kitty litter or not (I highly doubt that was the cause of the failure myself). It's a GT series car, comes with an extra manual for track preparation of the car, it should be used hard, that is how I (and I hope any other owner) would, and a failure like that should really not happen. It's potentially so bloody dangerous, imagine that happening at the ring or some track or other
Disgraceful engineering for a car with an expected usage profile like that imo.The fact they WELDED third gear to the shaft is quite frankly astonishing, both issues have completely sullied my opinion of the GT brand tbh
