Getting the old girl remapped... I should have learned my lesson by now...
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Tricky Dicky
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I agree with Titan Tim , if you want more power upgrade your car , unless I was 100% certain the outfit was good and had a guaranteed track record with members testimonials all over the place I would not do it.these cars are bonkers complex How much power do you need maniac ? And will it affect the resale potential / insurance ?
Really good result - back to square one but at least at no cost and an experience gained and a warning shared with others.
Regarding more power in a 35is I really can't see how it can be exploited on the road, or even a track. The chassis/handling on these is, IMHO, only just coping with the existing power and without mechanical changes any power increase will be wasted - except for the straight line traffic light Grand Prix and/or bragging rights down the pub!
If the addition of a LSD and better tyres etc. isn't attractive how about spending money on high performance driving courses. I'm not talking about track experiences in supercars I'm talking about proper instruction in how to drive bloody quick but in safety. It's a route I have followed and it's been worth every penny.
Regarding more power in a 35is I really can't see how it can be exploited on the road, or even a track. The chassis/handling on these is, IMHO, only just coping with the existing power and without mechanical changes any power increase will be wasted - except for the straight line traffic light Grand Prix and/or bragging rights down the pub!
If the addition of a LSD and better tyres etc. isn't attractive how about spending money on high performance driving courses. I'm not talking about track experiences in supercars I'm talking about proper instruction in how to drive bloody quick but in safety. It's a route I have followed and it's been worth every penny.
The arrogance of some people never fails to amaze me!
On one hand they tell you they know nothing about the subject. Yet then quite bizarrely, act like they are the world foremost authority on the subject and feel qualified to make broad brush statements about the folks that do know what they they are talking about and go down these routes being fools and the companies that provide these services all being cowboys and charlatans!
Honestly I am gob smacked they really think any one cares about their ignorant, overly simplistic opinions
On one hand they tell you they know nothing about the subject. Yet then quite bizarrely, act like they are the world foremost authority on the subject and feel qualified to make broad brush statements about the folks that do know what they they are talking about and go down these routes being fools and the companies that provide these services all being cowboys and charlatans!
Honestly I am gob smacked they really think any one cares about their ignorant, overly simplistic opinions
I don't want to upgrade the car, I love my car, it will never be sold unless my life or my families life depended on it. I simply wanted a little more oomph at the top end or failing that, anywhere just to add more of a smile to my face.
To be fair, it's a quick car as it is, but as the engine has safe potential for more, then I thought why not.
Now I know why not, I'll simply enjoy what I have.
To be fair, it's a quick car as it is, but as the engine has safe potential for more, then I thought why not.
Now I know why not, I'll simply enjoy what I have.
stuartinzg
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Garvin said:
This is of course a very good point, which is why I am getting all the suspension/LSD/brake parts sorted before adding power.
I drove the car today, roof down, 14c, gleaming in the sun after a wash, and it really is bonkers fast in a straight line, it's tramlining, DSC is kicking in - feels like an American muscle car out of control. Not to mention I'm breaking the law in a few seconds - why would I need more?
I think it comes down to curiosity, same as the OP - it's not like he will use 370 on every traffic light, on every overtake. Cars for many of us here are a hobby, interest and passion - we see this engine under the hood and I visualise a go-kart with a screw under the accelerator pedal stopping me from pushing it all the way down (traumatised as a kid with this exact experience!)- I want to try it in "beast" mode, even for a little while. I would no doubt keep the car in map 0 for most of the time anyway, but when I hit the autobahn and I want to stretch its legs - it becomes another beast. We want to get to know the car is all its glory.
I'm also interested in MHD from the logging perspective. I've just sorted my OTG cable and have managed to connect to the ECU - about to buy the logging module and upload to the N54tech forum to see what they think of the logs. I noticed the car is a bit rough on idle and running a bit rich - interested to find out more. The flash/mapping isn't always about pretending to be in The Fast and The Furious movie
Interestingly the DME reported a fault, something to do with battery drain. Could be my phone connected to the USB or my Halo LED lights...have to check more.I guess it's no different to your wife putting on that blonde wig and stockings every now and then ... new woman and all that
stuartinzg
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Maniac said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with that idea - you know you have 370 on tap with no sweat, so I can relate to the appeal
wow what a mess these so called tuners made on your car. At first i did think it was nothing to do with a bluetooth call thats a loads of rubbish. Ive heard many stories whilst tunning running the battery flat mid way through which will cause an ecu problem. Most tuners ive seen will work on the car and plug their laptop in via another power source as the writing can take a while
Im having my 3.0 remaped next month Jason at BW Chiptune (london) he will be doing the work costing approx £250-300 for live tunning whilst on dyno doing an agressive remap not these generic files alot of tuners will flash to your ecu.
Suppose the moral of the story is use a well credited tuner not a man with a lapotop promising bhp gains.
Im having my 3.0 remaped next month Jason at BW Chiptune (london) he will be doing the work costing approx £250-300 for live tunning whilst on dyno doing an agressive remap not these generic files alot of tuners will flash to your ecu.
Suppose the moral of the story is use a well credited tuner not a man with a lapotop promising bhp gains.
goldbcfc said:
Couldn't agree more!
Its a shame the OP has let this experience put him off remapping. At the end of the day he made some poor choices and it unfortunately bit him on the arse.
However it is like I said earlier, no one in their right mind would go to a sh!t garage, get a poor repair done and then state they will never use any garage of any form ever again.
Unfortunately that appears to be the knee jerk reaction here and its nuts really. I'm not trying to have a go at the OP but I am keen to stress this is far from the norm with remapping and anyone considering going down that route shouldn't let it put them off.
At the end of the day choose your remapper wisely, make sure they have solid recommendations, their own premises, decent equipement/knowledge and you will be fine. I've had 9 cars remapped over the years and never once had a problem.
ronk said:
If I move where I work one of these is an option ... a bit too dear for me at the moment but I see the power and 4wd and like the idea. I had a 330d LCI coupe which was superb and miss it (that was 245bhp and 0-60 in 6 so felt good). A 335d xdrive touring does appeal and I think to 60 is the same as the 35iS or almost ... albeit with a roof and no straight six sound ...
It's said 400bhp is achievable with a bit of tweaking!
Im prepared to ignore the sound issue as even in its non tweaked state it produces good power and torque. The gearbox isn't a dct setup but the changes are fast and vert sharp.
It's way to fast for her to go to Tescos in!
Im prepared to ignore the sound issue as even in its non tweaked state it produces good power and torque. The gearbox isn't a dct setup but the changes are fast and vert sharp.
It's way to fast for her to go to Tescos in!
stuartinzg
Active member
ronk said:
That's the issue for me, I can't see the appeal in a 400 bhp diesel. I had an E92 which had 220 bhp - hateful diesel engine which crunched the miles no problem. But when I'm doing 80 mph in UK or 120 on the autobahn, do I need another 200 bhp with the same noise? not really :thumbsdown:
I can't justify to myself a large diesel engine - a cheap to run 55 mpg one, sure.
The other thing wth high power diesel remaps is that they seem to be reducing the power band width & making the power tail off even more aggressive. Where as in petrol applications you're generally increasing the high rpm torque more than the low rpm torque so you widen the effective power band.
The appeal in the recent twin turbo set ups is they don't seem to have any lag and along with the recent 8 speed auto box it just gives what seems like one long push in the back! The auto box has the changes well sorted so no noticable tail off.
I certainly wouldn't put this engine down as hateful - and Im not saying that because i have one either.
The car has changed my opinion - Enough grunt to embarrass a lot of fast cars. Thats why Im currently hanging back re the remap.
I certainly wouldn't put this engine down as hateful - and Im not saying that because i have one either.
The car has changed my opinion - Enough grunt to embarrass a lot of fast cars. Thats why Im currently hanging back re the remap.
techathy said:
I had my 330d LCI remapped from 245bhp to 305bhp (shown on a rolling road) and tbh it was a great map. Smoother, incredibly rapid to say the least .... but I preferred it as standard !
Standard was easier to drive and not like being on a funfair ride. The narrow power band made it violent to say the least. Petrol remaps are far more progressive and fun IMO.