Get more gas when filling up...

Flycaster

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Boynton Beach, FL
Got this from a guy who spent 30 years in the oil industry.

"I've been in petroleum pipeline business for about 31 years, currently
working for the Kinder-Morgan Pipeline here in San Jose, CA. We deliver
about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period from the pipe line; one day
it's diesel, the next day it's jet fuel and gasoline.

We have 34 storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.
Here are some tricks to help you get your money's worth:

1. Fill up your car or truck in the morning when the
temperature is still cool. Remember that all
service stations have their storage tanks buried below
ground; and the colder the ground, the denser the gasoline. When it gets
warmer gasoline expands, so if you're filling up in the afternoon or in the
evening, what should be a gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum
business, the specific gravity and temperature of the fuel (gasoline,
diesel, jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products) are significant.
Every truckload that we load is temperature-compensated so that the
indicated gallonage is actually the amount pumped. A one-degree rise in
temperature is a big deal for businesses, but service stations don't
have temperature compensation at their pumps.

2. If a tanker truck is filling the station's tank at the time you want
to buy gas, do not fill up; most likely dirt and sludge in the tank is
being stirred up when gas is being delivered, and you might be
transferring that dirt from the bottom of their tank into your car's tank.

3. Fill up when your gas tank is half-full (or half-empty),because the more

gas you have in your tank the less air there is and gasoline evaporates rapidly,
especially when it's warm. (Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating

'roof' membrane to act as a barrier between the gas and the atmosphere, thereby
minimizing evaporation.)

4. If you look at the trigger you'll see that it has three delivery settings: slow,

medium and high. When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of
the nozzle to the highsetting. You should be pumping at the slow setting,

thereby minimizing vapors created while you are pumping. Hoses at the pump are
corrugated; the corrugations act as a return path for vapor recovery from gas that

already has been metered. If you are pumping at the high setting, the agitated

gasoline contains more vapor, which is being sucked back into the underground

tank, so you're getting less gas for your money. Hope this will help ease your 'pain

at the pump'."
 
damn.. i filled up yesterday with a full tank, in the afternoon, whilst they were refilling.

Hey ho.. =)
 
Interesting info.
Just wondering.... for a below grade storage tank, is the ΔT really that significant between a.m. & p.m.?
 
Don't trust everything you read on the internet. The fact that liquid expands when hot is true. The difference it makes in 10 gallons of gasoline I don't know. Not a big enough difference for me to be concerned with I'm sure. Some good info for us techno-geeks nonetheless. Thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:
 
Flycaster, I use to work with a man who had worked for Sinclair Oil Co for many year and most of what you mentioned above he had told me as well... :)
 
Thanks for the validation, WLH. I've posted these gas saving tips on all the BMW sites I belong to. Interestingly, while most agree with the tips, there are those who have their doubts about some of the tips. Hey, that's what makes horse racing, eh. However, I ahve one more reference that should sort of add more validation to them.

All should be aware that in Canada, ALL gas stations have temperature adjusted monitoring pumps to ensure that oil company gets the most dollars for its gas. While, in Arizona, the situation is reversed. The oil companies are fighting consumer groups who want these temperature adjusted pumps. It is estimated that in AZ the consumer is paying a lot more per gallon than he/she thinks because of mis-calculating the real amount of gas they fill with.

Please go to this site (http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/199085.php) to read the AZ newspaper article and also do read the comments after the article. Very enlightening for those who want the skinny on this subject.
 
Flycaster said:
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All should be aware that in Canada, ALL gas stations have temperature adjusted monitoring pumps to ensure that oil company gets the most dollars for its gas. .....
I can rest easy now... thanks
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:)
 
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