George Osborne - Briton of the year... Discuss

[Stuart Truman]

A man with no economic qualifications is Chancellor and by following a discredited theory our national debt has spiralled out of control, half a million (including working people) are using food banks and 5 million are on 'zero hours' contracts.


To coin an Andysat post.. FFS

 

[2dogs]

This whole island is just a floating Shite hole as far as I can see :thumbsdown:

 

[marchantsuk]

This whole island is just a floating Shite hole as far as I can see :thumbsdown:

Brought on by the previous Labour Muppets, The Tories have been left to clean up the mess. Granted I don't agree with all their decisions, and Osborne is the one of the worst examples of what the party is seen as full of toffs. But with the other option being Ed Balls...... Osborn is Briton of the Century in comparison.

 

[Stuart Truman]

It's not one party that's responsible. If you want to lay the blame, blame Westminster and the party system as a whole. All parties have a hand in this mess. There's a tendency to blame the banks, well who deregulated the financial sector? It wasn't labour. But labour are equally to blame in other areas.

Just chuck the whole lot of them out and start again with a system that is more reflective of the modern age.

There was an interesting study online recently, the vast majority who say they don't vote is down to anger and not apathy. Anger with all of them and the way it works.

 

[cj10jeeper]

A man with no economic qualifications is Chancellor and by following a discredited theory our national debt has spiralled out of control, half a million (including working people) are using food banks and 5 million are on 'zero hours' contracts.


To coin an Andysat post.. FFS

I have no time for Osborne, but the alternative idiots in labour almost wrecked the country and got us where we are, so I'll keep what we have as by far the lesser of 2 evils, not that these days I have any interest whatsoever in any of them.
As an aside zero contracts is actually up to 1mm (BBC), not 5mm, but I get the point you're making

Would you really rather have the alternatives of Spain, Greece, France, Italy, etc.? Nice weather, but no place to try to work & survive.

UK economy will surpass France by 2016 and Germany by 2030, so not so bad on the bigger picture.

 

[Stuart Truman]

The French economy exists because of subsidies from their government. If our economy overtakes Germany I'll buy a Prius...

As I said, the whole system is rotten to the core and needs replacing, but we have voted in a system that has cemented itself in place manned by people who consider themselves our rulers, and no longer public servants.

 

[cj10jeeper]

The French economy exists because of subsidies from their government. If our economy overtakes Germany I'll buy a Prius...

As I said, the whole system is rotten to the core and needs replacing, but we have voted in a system that has cemented itself in place manned by people who consider themselves our rulers, and no longer public servants.

You're having an angry morning

 

[Talksthetorque]

It's that bad here that over 1 million "Europeans" have turned up to live here in the last 11 years. :?
Including more American, German and French people,

There are other factors but it is the WORLD banking system to blame for much of the current mess, trying to make good money out of bad. Couple this with the fact that banking creates fantastic earnings per capita and huge tax revenues - that each country's government have to compete for.
If there is international competition like this I believe there should be international regulation.
This is where the politicians have failed us so far.
But I'm not moving anywhere else (6 numbers tonight excepted)

 

[Stuart Truman]

The French economy exists because of subsidies from their government. If our economy overtakes Germany I'll buy a Prius...

As I said, the whole system is rotten to the core and needs replacing, but we have voted in a system that has cemented itself in place manned by people who consider themselves our rulers, and no longer public servants.

You're having an angry morning

Probably started by the boiler (which is less than 2yrs old) failing this morning. Under warranty but nobody in the office until Monday.

 

[Gargybloke]

This whole island is just a floating Shite hole as far as I can see :thumbsdown:

Brought on by the previous Labour Muppets, The Tories have been left to clean up the mess. Granted I don't agree with all their decisions, and Osborne is the one of the worst examples of what the party is seen as full of toffs. But with the other option being Ed Balls...... Osborn is Briton of the Century in comparison.

Quite agree. Brown, Milliband and Balls at the treasury for many years screwed the country almost back to the stone age. Compared to those Marx brothers I would say Osborne was Einstein!

 

[TitanTim]

How about looking on the bright side, your lucky to be living in this country, I wouldn't fancy living in North Korea, Syria, Philippines to name a few, so I can put up with a few drongo Politicians

Tim.

 

[Geezah]

If its so crap here, how come the world and his wife want to come over? I guess it must be crappier where they are? Utopia does not exist. Of course we should strive to improve things, nothing is perfect, but that doesn't mean that it's bad in the UK.

You can keep the sun, it appears to me that too much of it seems to affect the mind in a negative way. They seem to love killing each other on a regular basis, even shooting kids at school and being openly corrupt to an astonishing scale ( I don't count the odd duck house here and there to be on such a scale!).

Osborne has had some pretty tough decisions to make, requiring large Kahunas. How would you start to put a bankrupt nation back onto its feet? Not by spending recklessly, that's for sure. If you owe some money on your credit card, you're not going to pay it back by spending more! Though I appreciate that spending on infrastructure definitely needs to be considered...carefully. It's a delicate balance, you are going in the right direction George.

P.s. Next time Stuart, get yourself a Viessmann boiler, 5 year gtee and 10 years on the stainless steel heat exchanger and quiet as a mouse. Good luck with it!

 

[Stuart Truman]

P.s. Next time Stuart, get yourself a Viessmann boiler, 5 year gtee and 10 years on the stainless steel heat exchanger and quiet as a mouse. Good luck with it!

This one's a Vaillant with a 10yr guarantee. Nobody in the office at the weekend though

 

[Talksthetorque]

Is the weather nice down there? Crisp sunny day here, get the zed fired up, get the heated seats on to warm your arse and go for a spirit-lifting blat round the countryside.
:wink:

 

[budfox]

The French economy exists because of subsidies from their government. If our economy overtakes Germany I'll buy a Prius...

As I said, the whole system is rotten to the core and needs replacing, but we have voted in a system that has cemented itself in place manned by people who consider themselves our rulers, and no longer public servants.

You're having an angry morning

He's right though.

This government doesn't serve the people, and nor did the previous one. What modern day politicians do is whatever is takes to keep vast swathes of the electorate dependent on the state and keep themselves in power.

Worst of the lot though was Blair. The bastard should have been put on trial for war crimes.

 

[sars]

The problem is not politicians, it is human greed, the want of something more shiny, however for our stage in development, with this level of intolerance this is about as best it's going to get. We could easily make a boiler last 50 years, however where would be the profit in that and that's what it's all about, profit

Yes it could be better, you should not be allowed to be a politician until the age of 40, and you should not be allowed to be a minister without the relevant experience in that field.

 

[Bing]

Is the weather nice down there? Crisp sunny day here, get the zed fired up, get the heated seats on to warm your arse and go for a spirit-lifting boat round the countryside.
:wink:

Doing this shortly. Fcuk Osborne, he won't be having as much fun as I will be

 

[Bing]

Yes it could be better, you should not be allowed to be a politician until the age of 40, and you should not be allowed to be a minister without the relevant experience in that field.

I find myself on the cusp of agreeing with this - a mandatory career path through local government, junior central government positions then on to being an MP and cabinet minister when you actually know something about what you're doing. It's true everywhere, but politics really does suffer from it being about who you know and who your buddies are rather than what you know. At least in business you're more likely to get found out and sacked pretty quickly before you can do serious damage...

 

[Adamski]

P.s. Next time Stuart, get yourself a Viessmann boiler, 5 year gtee and 10 years on the stainless steel heat exchanger and quiet as a mouse. Good luck with it!

This one's a Vaillant with a 10yr guarantee. Nobody in the office at the weekend though

Energy companies will usually be able to call round to attempt a repair. However not sure if that impacts on your warranty....


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[exdos]

It's not one party that's responsible. If you want to lay the blame, blame Westminster and the party system as a whole. All parties have a hand in this mess. There's a tendency to blame the banks, well who deregulated the financial sector? It wasn't labour. But labour are equally to blame in other areas.

Stuart, you are right that the Party system is to blame and IMO it undermines democracy, because the electorate's opinions are always ignored in favour of the "party line" which is always influenced by big business to make our country run for their benefits. The Labour Party was hi-jacked by the triumvirate of Tony B Liar, Peter Meddlesome and Gordon Clown, and none of them had a clue about economics other than the usual Labour policy of spend, spend, spend to develop the "Client State", in which a large percentage of the population either work directly or indirectly for government or are in receipt of benefits from the state. The Labour Party as the government and Gordon Clown as Chancellor are the only people to blame for this excessive spending. Likewise, the (lack of) control of the financial services sector is as a result of the Labour government's Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 and the abject failure of the FSA under the utterly incompetent/negligent Hector Sants and his "light touch" regulation.

Osborne inherited an unenviable and enormous task to attempt to reverse our economic predicament in the aftermath of The Clown's reckless spending, and the Tories have been hamstrung from applying the necessary austerity required by being in a coalition government.