General Election 2015 - POLL

[mad4slalom]

surprising result considering we had been told for weeks that no one party could win. that together with the vindictive posturing by salmond and sturgeon, boasting how they could control parliament and lock out the tories,This spectacularly backfired and anihalated labour and the lib dems by waking up wavering natural tories into
getting out and voting for commonsense and allowing them a second term to finish the job they started.
Utterly convinced that a descisive conservative win is the best result for great Britain. couldnt abide milliband and Balls undoing all the results we have seen, or clegg dictating this and demanding that in return for his support in another hamstinged coalition.

 

[original guvnor]

The people who moan about the first past the post system seem to forget we had a referendum on an alternative vote model in 2011 (I think). Only about 40% of the electorate bothered to vote and it was overwhelmingly defeated.

 

[Jasey]

Interestingly the Scots will have less say in the running of the Country as the Scottish Lib Dems are no longer in the Government !

And I do think Sturgeon's posturing did indeed push a lot of English into getting off their arses and voting Conservative.

Will be interesting to see how this all pans out over the coming weeks/months !

 

[Angie4m]

I think you're being a bit harsh on people who have to take benefits to survive - there are many folk out there who through no fault of their own end up in difficult circumstances and can't get work . If the SNP really wanted to bring prosperity to Scotland they should make it a tax haven to attract all the wealth and in particular big business there . I guess that's not in keeping with their left wing politics . In fact that would attract a lot of investment from England and the best brains and wealthiest people would move north of the border and Scotland would be the envy of Europe . As it happens they want to do the complete opposite which will result in Scotland becoming like Greece- Esepcially if the safety net of Daddy's cheque book is no longer where once they become independent .
Having said all that you have to take your hat off to the SNP and especially Nicola who did a fine job in convincing Scots to give them a land slide . Labour would do well to take some lessons from the SNP .

No I'm not being harsh because as I said if you genuinely need them, people who loose their job due to illness, redundancies or people who are disabled or cannot work for a genuine reason ARE entitled to benefits and these are not people who sit on the arse all day doing jack all, probably never having worked a day in their life even though they could. The ones that see benefits as a lifestyle choice. They see having umpteen kids as a meal ticket. You know the Jeremy Kyle bunch or the ones that end up on daytime TV with 8 kids saying how £4k a month is not enough to live but they still all have their designer clobber, smoke like chimneys and drink like fish. THESE are the people who feel hard done to, the same people that when interviewed about the Referendum all said they were voting yes because they would get better benefits from he SNP government.

I've heard people go on about child benefits, sorry but if you choose to have children you must realise that you need to support them and that means you need to have a means to pay for them. It is not up to the state to fund them. For centuries people have 'managed' because people made sacrifices. Nowadays people want to live to a lifestyle they have become acustome to and I get that but if you then choose to have children you need to realise that your lifestyle and disposable will change.

If Scotland do have another referendum and it happens to go the other way your right it will become just like Greece and me and my other half will be quite happy to leave the SNP and the people who vote for it to their own devices. That's assuming we've not already left anyway.

I do think that possibly previous Labour voters didn't want to really find out if Ed would do as he said and say no to the SNP and voted Tory. Or maybe some have seen their life now enhanced by the road to recovery and didn't want to see it squandered away by the two Eds.

At the end of the day the best party won and with a majority so here is to the next 5 years......whatever that may bring

 

[wegras]

The people who moan about the first past the post system seem to forget we had a referendum on an alternative vote model in 2011 (I think). Only about 40% of the electorate bothered to vote and it was overwhelmingly defeated.

 

[Angie4m]

Just seen that 66.1% of the Electorate voted. It's madness that in some parts of the world people die fighting to have a vote, to live in a democratic country yet we have the right and not everyone uses it but EVERYONE regardless of if they voted or not will have something to say on the running of the country. If you don't vote, you can't moan, Mr Brand is a fine example of this. He has plenaty to say but doesn't vote. Does anyone know if he did this time?

I don't buy this crap of not voting as a protest. If you really want a protest vote, pick a random small party or like 1.6 million people here, wipe out a huge part of one parties seats. Now that's a protest vote. Not sure what they were protesting against however the hatred for Jim Murphy may have been a factor.

 

[Angie4m]

The people who moan about the first past the post system seem to forget we had a referendum on an alternative vote model in 2011 (I think). Only about 40% of the electorate bothered to vote and it was overwhelmingly defeated.

It has been muted that in the next 5 years this may be up for discussion again and given what has happened in the past 24 hours people maybe more inclined to vote this time. It's just a shame it's not law that everyone has to vote. I've never missed an opportunity to vote, I feel it's my moral duty to do it.

 

[Picnic Queen]

More than usual?

He tells big fibs :x Don't listen to what he says. He is treated like a king (prawn)! I only snap his head off a few times every now and again

 

[Geezah]

Welfare cuts are a coming.....and about time too. We need a FAIR overhaul of the benefits system. I am shocked to hear that the left want to lift the cap on benefits from its current level of £26,000 a year.

My daughter studied her socks off for 5 years at uni, not to mention the work and sacrifices she put in before that just to win a place at uni. As a newly qualified dentist she earns £30k pa, she would have to earn £33,700 pa to have £26k in her hand so she gets paid less than somebody claiming the max benefit.

Should I have told her not to bother? How much more ridiculous does it have to get?

Like I have said countless times before, 'It's the economy.....stupid.'

Blue is the colour! Except in Scotland where it's yellow because Tories are hated here due to Maggie Thatcher and the Poll Tax....but hang on that was George Youngers idea, the Scottish Secretary of the day. Oh well, blame the Tories anyway because the Scots will always look after themselves just as they did in the Highland Clearances...oh hang on!

 

[Nictrix]

Keep hearing and reading about people who think that Scotland is anti-England.
Its not.
Just because you want the best for your country does not mean you are anti-anybody.
If anything I would say that England is more anti-Scotland as all you hear from people south of the border is how Scotland is full of scroungers on the dole and claiming benefits.
I think its probably the same on both sides of the border.
No point moaning about how many people voted for a certain party and how many MPs will go to westminster after the voting has finished. The system thats in place makes it this way and if you dont like the outcome, tough.
As for another referendum, it seems everybody is talking about another referendum EXCEPT the SNP.

 

[Nictrix]

Welfare cuts are a coming.....and about time too. We need a FAIR overhaul of the benefits system. I am shocked to hear that the left want to lift the cap on benefits from its current level of £26,000 a year.

My daughter studied her socks off for 5 years at uni, not to mention the work and sacrifices she put in before that just to win a place at uni. As a newly qualified dentist she earns £30k pa, she would have to earn £33,700 pa to have £26k in her hand so she gets paid less than somebody claiming the max benefit.

Should I have told her not to bother? How much more ridiculous does it have to get?

Like I have said countless times before, 'It's the economy.....stupid.'

Blue is the colour! Except in Scotland where it's yellow because Tories are hated here due to Maggie Thatcher and the Poll Tax....but hang on that was George Youngers idea, the Scottish Secretary of the day. Oh well, blame the Tories anyway because the Scots will always look after themselves just as they did in the Highland Clearances...oh hang on!

Benefits should be cut. If you do not work you should get just enough to live on.
How many jobless people do you see everyday walking around with mobile phones, smoking and nicking in and out of the pub or the bookies?
If they can do all this they are receiving too much money.
I have worked since I was 16 and luckily never been out of work.
It was the done thing when I reached 16 to leave school and get a job, my parents are not wealthy and couldnt have afforded to send myself or 3 brothers to university so I will never earn a huge amount.
I dont and never will earn anywhere near £26000 per year and it sickens me to hear that people are handed this amount of money for doing nothing.

 

[Number5]

Worrying how Cock sure 3 of them were on Thursday that they can sort out the country, are the best thing since sliced bread and know what everybody wants...

24 Hours later, they're all very sorry how wrong they got it, didnt see it coming, accept all responsibility and all resign !

 

[Angie4m]

As for another referendum, it seems everybody is talking about another referendum EXCEPT the SNP.

That's because for some reason people seem to have jumped on the fact a General Election landslide would trigger this but they can't have another one yet because they'll need to set it out in their manifesto for the next Scottish Parliament elections. They haven't ruled it out and Nicola Sturgeon even made reference to it when she became leader of the SNP so it will be on the cards, just like it always has been on their manafesto but last time they got a majority government and people kinda missed the whole referendum part until they had enough to pass it. They tried the bill before with a minority government and as expected it failed, again brushed under the carpet and forgotten about until it was passed and the sh!t hit the fan for many people who hadn't seen it coming.

I think next year people will be far more aware of it and looking for it in the manifesto and for some people this could turn them off voting SNP but then not sure if what happened last night will be what happens next year. Only time will tell But like always people need go vote to make sure that they take part.

I'm already hearing the Scotland's got a government it didn't vote for sh!te that sturgeon peddled thoughout the referendum campaign, however not everyone voted SNP, in fact not everyone voted and of those who did more people voted against the SNP but across a wide range of parties. Once again my message to Ms Sturgeon is I am Scottish and I DID get the government I voted for. The people who voted SNP were never going to get the government they voted for because it's not possible

 

[Taz]

The people who moan about the first past the post system seem to forget we had a referendum on an alternative vote model in 2011 (I think). Only about 40% of the electorate bothered to vote and it was overwhelmingly defeated.

and i never knew anything about this, there certainly was not much publicity about it

 

[Jasey]

As for another referendum, it seems everybody is talking about another referendum EXCEPT the SNP.

I'm already hearing the Scotland's got a government it didn't vote for sh!te that sturgeon peddled thoughout the referendum campaign, however not everyone voted SNP, in fact not everyone voted and of those who did more people voted against the SNP but across a wide range of parties. Once again my message to Ms Sturgeon is I am Scottish and I DID get the government I voted for. The people who voted SNP were never going to get the government they voted for because it's not possible

Cameron and his slim majority may struggle to get additional powers for Scotland now and the effect this may have is the one I most fear!

As Labour have been kicked out of Scotland they may not support more powers for Scotland either.

Its going to be an interesting couple of years!

 

[Jasey]

Keep hearing and reading about people who think that Scotland is anti-England.
Its not.

Get yourself an England Rugby shirt and go out for a night and report back your findings

 

[John002]

It's to confusing. The voting for this party to keep that party out is ridiculous. Online services letting you swap votes with another region? What's all that about?

If this went on in Russia for example our news would be all over it accusing Putin to have rigged it.

Lets just scratch our heads and wonder what just happened.

Edit.

Have a perusal
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32601281

 

[Angie4m]

As for another referendum, it seems everybody is talking about another referendum EXCEPT the SNP.

I'm already hearing the Scotland's got a government it didn't vote for sh!te that sturgeon peddled thoughout the referendum campaign, however not everyone voted SNP, in fact not everyone voted and of those who did more people voted against the SNP but across a wide range of parties. Once again my message to Ms Sturgeon is I am Scottish and I DID get the government I voted for. The people who voted SNP were never going to get the government they voted for because it's not possible

Cameron and his slim majority may struggle to get additional powers for Scotland now and the effect this may have is the one I most fear!

As Labour have been kicked out of Scotland they may not support more powers for Scotland either.

Its going to be an interesting couple of years!

Scotland already have quite a lot of powers and have done for sometime, they just pick and choose which ones they want to use. I'm actually struggling to see what other powers they could have? They have the power to bring in new laws, abolish them, hold referendums, deal with taxation for people who reside and pay tax in Scotland to name but a few. They can't decide how much money they get from the UK government and keep up their ways and George will say here this is what your getting so lump it! Then we will really see what the SNP do then. They can't pay for everything they currently do on a reduced budget. Cuts will need to be made but where to I don't know but maybe look at cutting free university tuition, taxes raised and council tax will need to be increased as it been frozen the whole time they've been in power.

It will be very interesting indeed.

 

[mr wilks]

I'm amazed that they all still seem to have a high opinion of themselves.

Hard not to read with some glee , the guy is slippery as a otter's pocket :wink:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074194/Goodbye-man-never-admit-got-wrong-SIMON-HEFFER-Balls-never-shed-reputation-slipperiness-political-thuggery.html

 

[Jasey]

I'm amazed that they all still seem to have a high opinion of themselves.

Hard not to read with some glee , the guy is slippery as a otter's pocket :wink:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074194/Goodbye-man-never-admit-got-wrong-SIMON-HEFFER-Balls-never-shed-reputation-slipperiness-political-thuggery.html

Highlight of the election was that tosser losing his job