Terryvision
Lifer
They can't say solder very well but this vid will give you the idea. http://youtu.be/6EiIDNEiB_U
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Terryvision
Lifer
http://youtu.be/BxeDkcAa4Fs
Terryvision said:
That's a very bold statement!
I am an automotive electrical engineer, and we would never solder in a car! We always use pins and connectors, like OEM BMW connections.
I understand however that this isnt as easy to get hold of for most people. So your options are crimped bullet connectors from halfords, or soldering if you are confident you can do a good job!
"these scotch block connectors should be wiped off the face of the earth IMO they are a cause of so many electrical issues."
Agreed!
The least intrusive, but still secure electrical connection method that I know in these circumstances is to use a top E guitar string(electric guitar). This can be begged from a guitarist friend, if you have one, or can be purchased on ebay as a single string for about £1.50. The top E is the thinnest string but very strong. It should be cut into pieces of approx. 1 cm long and then soldered to the end of each of the 5 wires from the Gaptech module. As some strings are coated it may be necessary to abrade the length to allow the solder join to take and a good connection to be made with the loom wire. A small nick down to the wire in the sheath of each appropriate wire on the cars loom, allows the guitar wire to be pushed into this nick and down inside the sheath of the loom wire, thus making full contact along it's 1cm length with the wiring inside. A short length of insulating tape securing both wires together ensures that the join can't pull out. A bit unusual but works and does not involve cutting the loom wire itself.
I still agree that to cut the wire fully on the loom, slide a heat shrink tube on one wire, expose the wire on all 3 tips, solder all together and then slide the heat shrink over for insulation, is the strongest, most secure join.
Agreed!
The least intrusive, but still secure electrical connection method that I know in these circumstances is to use a top E guitar string(electric guitar). This can be begged from a guitarist friend, if you have one, or can be purchased on ebay as a single string for about £1.50. The top E is the thinnest string but very strong. It should be cut into pieces of approx. 1 cm long and then soldered to the end of each of the 5 wires from the Gaptech module. As some strings are coated it may be necessary to abrade the length to allow the solder join to take and a good connection to be made with the loom wire. A small nick down to the wire in the sheath of each appropriate wire on the cars loom, allows the guitar wire to be pushed into this nick and down inside the sheath of the loom wire, thus making full contact along it's 1cm length with the wiring inside. A short length of insulating tape securing both wires together ensures that the join can't pull out. A bit unusual but works and does not involve cutting the loom wire itself.
I still agree that to cut the wire fully on the loom, slide a heat shrink tube on one wire, expose the wire on all 3 tips, solder all together and then slide the heat shrink over for insulation, is the strongest, most secure join.
Terryvision
Lifer
mike46 said:Terryvision said:
That's a very bold statement!
I am an automotive electrical engineer, and we would never solder in a car! We always use pins and connectors, like OEM BMW connections.
I understand however that this isnt as easy to get hold of for most people. So your options are crimped bullet connectors from halfords, or soldering if you are confident you can do a good job!
Agreed with both statements but, there is like I said a limited amount of space for a pin connection block behind the console. The ash tray console part is a very tight fit!
This is why I suggested soldering over scotch connections or crimps!
Like I said its personal preference and your car to do as you will... Good luck with your install guys whatever install method you choose
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pvd415uk said:
i would have thought they would have at least emailed us back by now for confirmation...... unless this is a massive ploy from Moheddine and he set up that paypal name haha
haha only joking, good on ya for sorting all this out for us im hoping we will get some sort of comunication from them soonish tho as im impatient at the best of times lol.
Haha! Cheers all - currently enjoying my holiday funded from this very kind forum! 8)JINGLE said:pvd415uk said:
i would have thought they would have at least emailed us back by now for confirmation...... unless this is a massive ploy from Moheddine and he set up that paypal name haha
im hoping we will get some sort of comunication from them soonish tho as im impatient at the best of times lol.
My payment is being made tomorrow, so will be in the same boat as all of you - but he seems reputable, and PayPal does offer protection if nowt turns up. Will email them to confirm whether the units are in stock, and what estimated delivery times are.
A very swift reply, and some good news from Gaptech:
Hi.
As of 8:00 PM last night 14 people had paid, those 14 units were all tested and packaged yesterday and have been shipped today.
All those that have paid since then will get their units tested and packaged today and shipped tomorrow.
I always try to dispatch the day after payment is received and delivery to UK address normally takes 24-48 hours.
As I print each person’s address label from PayPal they should receive an email from PayPal informing them that their purchase has been dispatched, I do not normally send any additional emails.
The first modules should start to arrive tomorrow.
Hope this alleviates any fears!
Hi.
As of 8:00 PM last night 14 people had paid, those 14 units were all tested and packaged yesterday and have been shipped today.
All those that have paid since then will get their units tested and packaged today and shipped tomorrow.
I always try to dispatch the day after payment is received and delivery to UK address normally takes 24-48 hours.
As I print each person’s address label from PayPal they should receive an email from PayPal informing them that their purchase has been dispatched, I do not normally send any additional emails.
The first modules should start to arrive tomorrow.
Hope this alleviates any fears!
I've also received PP confirmation. 
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Dudda said:
Would do the job perfectly well but a bit crude and heavy duty. The pin connectors designed for low voltage use are what the car industry use, like the small white 6 pin connector on this link https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/s/electrical/multi-pin-plugs. Just leave one pin unused.
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