Front wheels rubbing issues

mannymux

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Hey guys, I have a z4m coupe. I am running 19” wheels on them. I’ve been having rubbing issues on turns. I paid a shop to install camber plates which he said would resolve the issue but it did nothing. Another guy said I need adjustable lower control arm bushing brackets. But he said he was having issues sourcing them. Any suggestions? Thx
 
What wheels (widths & offsets) and tyres (widths & profile) are you running.

Are you running at standard height, or lowered?
 
mannymux said:
(19"x8.5 35ET) it’s on kw3 coil overs. A shop tried changing ride height but no luck.
That offset will add about 1cm to the outside of the rim, so standard tyre sizes might rub on hard lock.

It will be worse if you've put wider/taller tyres on too, so what size tyres have you fitted?
 
mannymux said:
245/35ZR-19 PIRELLI P ZERO NERO GT XL
There's your problem!

You've got 13mm extra poke on the wheel and 10mm extra width on each side of the tyre!

You'd probably get away with a 225/40r19 or a 235/35r19 - but of course wouldn't look as good - so you're looking at either changing the camber on the front via adjustable camber plates on the top of the KWs, or by fitting adjustable control arms/eccentric bushings; or you can remove the wheel arch lining and do some minor bodywork.
 
mannymux said:
I had camber plates installed but didn’t work.
It could just be that the wheel & tyre combination is just too big then...although I do see plenty of e46 M3s with similar size fronts, but they're not Z4Ms!
mannymux said:
Any suggestions on adjustable control arms brands?
Not specifically control arms, but if you're in the US Turner Motorsport do adjustable front & rear sway/anti-roll bars links and camber arm rods...so maybe they have something suitable (assuming you're in the US).
 
Have the exact same issue, but on 235/35r19. KWV3 in highest setting and maxxed out camber (2´deg).
Thinking of buying a new set of liners and try and heat/shape where they rub over this winter.
Don't want dirt/water/pebbles thrown at the back of those headlamps...
 
Would rubbing be an issue with standard suspension, with OEM CSL's running standard tyre sizes? If not, at what point do they become an issue, is it ride height or camber that causes the problem?
 
Justino said:
Would rubbing be an issue with standard suspension, with OEM CSL's running standard tyre sizes? If not, at what point do they become an issue, is it ride height or camber that causes the problem?
I had rubbing on the rear with genuine CSLs and OE CSL tyre sizes, but some don't experience any rubbing...it might depend on the brand/model of tyre as some are wider/taller than others - despite the labelling.

One variation of the issue appears on the fronts when you put lock on and the wider tyre (possibly on a wider wheel) makes the outside edge of the tyre scrape the wheel arch liner.

The other appears on the rear when you go through a compression and the wider tyre comes up in the arch to hit the arch liner.

I live with an almost constant hole in my rear arch liners (due to 265 rears) and lowered suspension...and just replace them every year or so.
 
I am standard suspension at present, but thinking about replacing as the rear springs are starting to flake paint and rust. How much lower is your set up that causes rubbing?

With standard the gap between wheel arch and tyre on CSL is about 40mm give or take 5mm as the shoulder of the tyre tapers a little. Car may have settled a little after this photo as had been jacked up to fit new wheels.

Looking on tiresize.com, going from 255-40-18 to 254-30-19, which is the E46 CSL stock size, the wheel is 2.7% smaller. The diameter is 17mm smaller, which in turn increases the tyre to arch gap by 8.5mm which I guess is why lowering with CSL wheels is so popular as you can reduce the gap back or further.

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