micz4 said:
Front plate
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TitanTim said:I just don't see the point and wouldn't want to waste my time being pulled over.
As much as anything its just a disregard for the law so if can't do the time don't do the crime
Tim.
P.S. I'm a fun person, I just do it within the law
Time is a commodity i have plenty of and if i get to talk cars with traffic police officers it will be a pleasure. What sort of fun do you have within the law? I subscribe to the Jack Sparrow principle that," The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can’t do. For instance, you can accept that your father was a pirate and a good man or you can’t. But pirate is in your blood, boy, so you’ll have to square with that some day. " I drive the Black Pearl
micz4 said:TitanTim said:I just don't see the point and wouldn't want to waste my time being pulled over.
As much as anything its just a disregard for the law so if can't do the time don't do the crime
Tim.
P.S. I'm a fun person, I just do it within the law
Time is a commodity i have plenty of and if i get to talk cars with traffic police officers it will be a pleasure. What sort of fun do you have within the law? I subscribe to the Jack Sparrow principle that," The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can’t do. For instance, you can accept that your father was a pirate and a good man or you can’t. But pirate is in your blood, boy, so you’ll have to square with that some day. " I drive the Black Pearl
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micz4 said:
Oh, the witty sarcasm aimed at me is too much to handle!
35 in a 30 zone is more dangerous than any of us (myself included) appreciate when thinking about stopping distances, but that needn't concern you, just make sure that if you run someone over, that you reverse away so they don't see your rear plate, that way you can't be caught.
And why not calm the nerves with a drink whilst driving away, I mean, you can probably have several pints and still be ok, and what is the law to contradict your opinion?
OK, some of us don't play well with others.
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Only when the person is actively talking about breaking the law, seems a bit silly to me to talk about that on a public forum?
It is up to him what he does, and good luck to him, but being a public forum I am allowed to voice my opinions - its called a balanced view.
I am genuinly interested in how he gets on though, and if there are any repurcussions. I mean, what is the legal need for a front plate, considering some places dont need one?
It is up to him what he does, and good luck to him, but being a public forum I am allowed to voice my opinions - its called a balanced view.
I am genuinly interested in how he gets on though, and if there are any repurcussions. I mean, what is the legal need for a front plate, considering some places dont need one?
The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001kevinmarkwhite said:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/contents/made
"Fixing of front registration plates: vehicles registered on or after the relevant date
6.—(1) This regulation applies to vehicles, other than works trucks, road rollers and agricultural machines, first registered on or after the relevant date.
(2) Except as provided in paragraph (5), a registration plate must be fixed on the front of the vehicle in the manner required by paragraph (3).
(3) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed—
(a)vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable,
(b)in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (4).
(4) The diagonal length of the relevant area is—
(a)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is at least 57 millimetres, 22 metres,
(b)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 50 millimetres, 21.5 metres,
(c)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 44 millimetres, 18 metres.
(5) In the case of a motor cycle or a motor tricycle which does not have a body of a type which is characteristic of the body of a four-wheeled vehicle—
(a)a registration plate must not be fixed on the front of a vehicle if it was first registered on or after 1st September 2001,
(b)a plate need not be fixed on the front of the vehicle if it was first registered before 1st September 2001."
Offences under section 59 of the Act19.—(1) For the purposes of section 59(1) of the Act (regulations: offences), the person responsible for complying with these Regulations is the person driving the vehicle or, where it is not being driven, the person keeping it.
(2) Paragraph (1) does not apply to a regulation the breach of which would constitute an offence under section 42(1) of the Act (not fixing a registration mark as required by virtue of section 23).
and the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/contents
42 Not fixing registration mark.E+W+S+N.I.(1)
If a registration mark is not fixed on a vehicle as required by virtue of section 23, the relevant person is guilty of an offence.
(2)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(3)In subsection (1) “the relevant person” means the person driving the vehicle or, where it is not being driven, the person keeping it.
(4)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) to prove that—
(a)he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act, and
(b)the vehicle was being driven for the purpose of being so registered.
(5)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) in relation to a vehicle—
(a)to which section 47 of the M1Road Traffic Act 1988 applies by virtue of subsection (2)(b) of that section, or
(b)to which [F1Article 63 of the Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995] applies by virtue of paragraph (2)(b) of that Article,
(vehicles manufactured before the prescribed period and used before registration) to prove that he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act and that the vehicle was being driven in accordance with subsection (6).
(6)A vehicle is being driven in accordance with this subsection if—
(a)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under section 45 of the M2Road Traffic Act 1988 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from subsection (1) of section 47 of that Act by regulations under subsection (6) of that section, or
[F2(b)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under Article 61 of the M3Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from paragraph (1) of Article 63 of that Order by regulations under paragraph (6) of that Article.]
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/contents
42 Not fixing registration mark.E+W+S+N.I.(1)
If a registration mark is not fixed on a vehicle as required by virtue of section 23, the relevant person is guilty of an offence.
(2)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(3)In subsection (1) “the relevant person” means the person driving the vehicle or, where it is not being driven, the person keeping it.
(4)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) to prove that—
(a)he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act, and
(b)the vehicle was being driven for the purpose of being so registered.
(5)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) in relation to a vehicle—
(a)to which section 47 of the M1Road Traffic Act 1988 applies by virtue of subsection (2)(b) of that section, or
(b)to which [F1Article 63 of the Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995] applies by virtue of paragraph (2)(b) of that Article,
(vehicles manufactured before the prescribed period and used before registration) to prove that he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act and that the vehicle was being driven in accordance with subsection (6).
(6)A vehicle is being driven in accordance with this subsection if—
(a)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under section 45 of the M2Road Traffic Act 1988 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from subsection (1) of section 47 of that Act by regulations under subsection (6) of that section, or
[F2(b)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under Article 61 of the M3Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from paragraph (1) of Article 63 of that Order by regulations under paragraph (6) of that Article.]
.. I'll sky+ my crime watch episodes...
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So, to be fair then, if a motorcycle etc doesn't need a front plate, then why does a car?
I thought it was so the vehicle could be identified from the front....but if thats the case, why no so for motorbikes?
The law still stands, but it does actually seem quite contradictory?
I thought it was so the vehicle could be identified from the front....but if thats the case, why no so for motorbikes?
The law still stands, but it does actually seem quite contradictory?
micz4 said:TitanTim said:I just don't see the point and wouldn't want to waste my time being pulled over.
As much as anything its just a disregard for the law so if can't do the time don't do the crime
Tim.
P.S. I'm a fun person, I just do it within the law
Time is a commodity i have plenty of and if i get to talk cars with traffic police officers it will be a pleasure. What sort of fun do you have within the law? I subscribe to the Jack Sparrow principle that," The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can’t do. For instance, you can accept that your father was a pirate and a good man or you can’t. But pirate is in your blood, boy, so you’ll have to square with that some day. " I drive the Black Pearl
Well I just don't see taking your number plate off your motor and being pulled over for it as fun, your weird take on fun then :wink:
I think these type of threads do hiss some people off, usually those that are law abiding. My take on it is...... little rules and regs are there for a purpose and for a reason, not to be broken just for the fun of it. Once they're ground down and done away with then thats the start of a civilised society going into reverse.
I really think the police would rather be doing something else than dealing with plonkers (nothing personal) who can't abide with the simples in life
Tim.
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TitanTim said:micz4 said:TitanTim said:I just don't see the point and wouldn't want to waste my time being pulled over.
As much as anything its just a disregard for the law so if can't do the time don't do the crime
Tim.
P.S. I'm a fun person, I just do it within the law
Time is a commodity i have plenty of and if i get to talk cars with traffic police officers it will be a pleasure. What sort of fun do you have within the law? I subscribe to the Jack Sparrow principle that," The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can’t do. For instance, you can accept that your father was a pirate and a good man or you can’t. But pirate is in your blood, boy, so you’ll have to square with that some day. " I drive the Black Pearl
Well I just don't see taking your number plate off your motor and being pulled over for it as fun, your weird take on fun then :wink:
I think these type of threads do hiss some people off, usually those that are law abiding. My take on it is...... little rules and regs are there for a purpose and for a reason, not to be broken just for the fun of it. Once they're ground down and done away with then thats the start of a civilised society going into reverse.
I really think the police would rather be doing something else than dealing with plonkers (nothing personal) who can't abide with the simples in life
Tim.
No they wouldn't its far easier to catch a plonker than a serial killer and keeps there figures up. They've had there budgets cut to so will be pulling everyone for stupid things to try to recop that £30 at a time.
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kevinmarkwhite said:
Aren't you being a tad hysterical? He's talking about leaving a number plate off and risking a piddly fine, not slaughtering kids on the pavement outside a primary school after drinking a bottle of whisky.
Gordon Bennett!
And I'm sick of sports car drivers telling me they never break the law. Its bollocks and they know it.
Well there is a bit of tension in this thread. very unlike most on this forum!
Agreed, the front end looks better without a plate.
Couldn't be qrsed with the hassle of being pulled.
Even the stick on vinyl looks better. but they too
are actually illegal.
There are a few that run with no front plate.
Whatever makes you happy. if you don't mind the potential hassle
Agreed, the front end looks better without a plate.
Couldn't be qrsed with the hassle of being pulled.
Even the stick on vinyl looks better. but they too
are actually illegal.There are a few that run with no front plate.
Whatever makes you happy. if you don't mind the potential hassle