skillick said:
Doh! Thanks skillick
Shame it's an Auto in a car like that.
F-Type Coupe
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Doh! Thanks skillick
Shame it's an Auto in a car like that.cj10jeeper said:It's an 8 speed auto with some trickery for fast shifts. Of course has paddle shifts. Buyers in this sector have no real interest in a full manual and if they buy one it has no resale value.
Had an hour conversation with the designer Ian C a few months back
Mmm. Not sure about that Phil. It didn't do the GT3 any harm on the residual side of things. Let's see how the new PDK-only version does on the resale front compared to the older manual-only cars. I do accept though that Porsche will probably sell more now they've done a PDK-only version.
Last month, JLR disclosed that it had achieved record sales in September, with Jaguar selling 8,462 vehicles, up 35pc. While the F-type introduction had boosted Jaguar sales, the group stressed at the time that there had been “continued demand” for all XF models and a “solid performance” from the XJ.
No breakdown model by model though
No breakdown model by model though
original guvnor said:cj10jeeper said:It's an 8 speed auto with some trickery for fast shifts. Of course has paddle shifts. Buyers in this sector have no real interest in a full manual and if they buy one it has no resale value.
Had an hour conversation with the designer Ian C a few months back
Mmm. Not sure about that Phil. It didn't do the GT3 any harm on the residual side of things. Let's see how the new PDK-only version does on the resale front compared to the older manual-only cars. I do accept though that Porsche will probably sell more now they've done a PDK-only version.
I only go with what the designer said. He seems to be on the money
GT3 is a very different animal.Trouble is neither of us are really buyers and both have strong views and certain bias caused by our current car ownership, so time will tell if it sells and to whom.
I do think in general the world has changed so much. Watching 5th gear who would have expected that 60% of global sales of the top Bentley would be to China with 13 new dealerships opened in 2013. .
JLR are riding this global change where Jaguar is perceived as one of the most prestigious brands on the planet.
The all new aluminium XF and 3 series are coming soon and a whole raft. Time the Germans were woken up
BTW - I can organise factory tours in Brum if anyone wants to go. FoC and a fantastic 2 hour visit.
LeeZ4MR said:
Also 40, I kind of agree with the age stereotype regarding the range & brand as a whole... But not in relation to these cars. They're gorgeous, modern, and packed with performance technology... But most of all it's the interior that does it for me - nothing about it says pipe smoking elderly gent, which I think is the real step forward.
I agree the future looks really good for Jag and they are on a roll- but the pricing of the F-type coupe would indicate that the roadster was too ambitious , from what I know about the Range Rover Products , Land Rover are not even releasing the lower spec RRS models at the moment as they have a full order book on the higher end models.
As the coupe shares a lot of similar components why slash the price if the order book was full with roadsters.
As the coupe shares a lot of similar components why slash the price if the order book was full with roadsters.
Running a poll on the XF forum. You may be surprised to hear that 50% are under 50 and many under 30.
Sadly I'm not in either if this groups ...
Sadly I'm not in either if this groups ...
cj10jeeper said:original guvnor said:cj10jeeper said:It's an 8 speed auto with some trickery for fast shifts. Of course has paddle shifts. Buyers in this sector have no real interest in a full manual and if they buy one it has no resale value.
Had an hour conversation with the designer Ian C a few months back
Mmm. Not sure about that Phil. It didn't do the GT3 any harm on the residual side of things. Let's see how the new PDK-only version does on the resale front compared to the older manual-only cars. I do accept though that Porsche will probably sell more now they've done a PDK-only version.
I only go with what the designer said. He seems to be on the money
Trouble is neither of us are really buyers and both have strong views and certain bias caused by our current car ownership, so time will tell if it sells and to whom.
I do think in general the world has changed so much. Watching 5th gear who would have expected that 60% of global sales of the top Bentley would be to China with 13 new dealerships opened in 2013. .
JLR are riding this global change where Jaguar is perceived as one of the most prestigious brands on the planet.
The all new aluminium XF and 3 series are coming soon and a whole raft. Time the Germans were woken up
BTW - I can organise factory tours in Brum if anyone wants to go. FoC and a fantastic 2 hour visit.
You see I don't agree the latest GT3 is a very different animal to the R version of this Coupe at all. We haven't seen the GT3 RS yet so the GT3 is definitely a key competitor to the R. There's only £15k between them on list price too. Isn't the R supposed to be their equivalent of an M/GT? I know that soon there will probably be an RS version of this Coupe but if the XKRS version is anything to go by it will be at least another £20k premium over the R and made in tiny volumes so it will be closer to a GT3 RS than GT3. The XKRS has the same engine/power output as this R coupe as well. Surely at the very least it should've had a DCT box instead of an Auto? That's what buyers of these 500+hp cars seem to be demanding. Aston have fallen into the same trap. If Jag are really serious about repositioning their image then fitting an Auto to a 542hp car seems to be a strange move. Hardly conjures up a sporting image does it?!!
There's an awful lot of hype coming out of Jaguar at the moment but as Zermatt says if the order books are so full of Roadsters why sell the Coupe at £7k less. Let's see hard concrete sales numbers before we get too carried away.
Having said all that, there is a lot to like about the F-Type and it is certainly a step in the right direction. The new SUV and 3-series though will be much more important to their turnaround plan. It would be great if they manage to nail them.
cj10jeeper said:
But that's preaching to the converted.
Evo were suggesting 991's aren't shifting too well - too much of a price hike over the 997. There were stories of less than 12 month old 991s models with <3k mileage being sold for high £60's when they would've cost mid £90's new. That would be highly unusual for 911's. There is certainly a lot of new or very nearly new stock at my local dealer. Not sure how true all of that is though.
ZermattV said:
And about £2k more for the Cayman versus Boxster! Always struggled with that one!
original guvnor said:
mmm - just seems like asking who actually purchased what should based upon comments be a purely middle aged car.
With regards to the Porsche GT3 and XF RS discussion, I'll leave that. They are just halo cars for a brand, especially Jaguar and sales don't really matter. They just grab the headlines.
Price reduction - I think it's both a market price point reaction and is in fact a stripped out version. I'll wait for the ful spec. before I get excited about price drops. Jag did the same with the XF at £29,990 just to hit that point. Even removed split rear seat.. Sold a few after grabbing some headlines and put the prices back up
