Esso's new fuel

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/technology/whats-difference-between-regular-and-super-unleaded-fuel

Worth a read for those who are unsure of the differences and undecided if super is worth using in a particular application
 
I drove a 911 for 5 years/40k miles on Super Duper + Fairy Liquid and have been happier with the 35iS for 4 years/50k miles on RON's 95 not least because it's easier to find. Running low on fuel in the Porker was always a pain in the arse.
 
Chris_D said:
warmasice said:
buzyg said:
Indeed, do the E89 engines improve their performance on higher Octane petrol? I have know idea just asking..

Certainly the S54 needs it in the E85 M's but what other Z4 engines are designed specifically to run better on the higher Octane fuels?

With a remapped N20, I can confirm higher octane fuel (I use She'll V Power) makes a noticeable difference to performance. 100%.

Can you share those *kof* 100% performance increase figures perhaps? That 3/10ths of a second quicker to the next set of lights time?
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I don’t get it tbh, not just you but everyone who claims their car goes faster on super/98RON. It must be such a marginal gain for owners willing to spend the extra on premium fuel, what with all the speed cameras on UK roads preventing owners from exploiting all that ‘extra’ performance and most owners not racing or tracking to be tricked by the brand marketeers into a real placebo.
No offence, I’m all for and believe in the power of placebo speaking from first-hand experience, it works! But that’s the single biggest factor that the brands utilise and would have you fall prey to. Unless you’re running an engine specifically designed to run on higher octane fuel, with the appropriate cmpression there’s really no point otherwise.

I cite in other threads like these the case of our mechanic Dave tuning our Atom for 100RON racing fuel usually Sunoco FR as I recall,l and it making not a blind bit of difference to our ‘ring laptimes, apart from our thinning wallets that is. :cry:
Yes we may have been faster in some places, in certain gears at certain parts of the rev range but overall, no real or significant increase in performance due to downforce and gear ratios on the straights and that’s from driving a car at 10/10ths.....all the time!

Carry on spending on super though, if it makes you feel the car has more zing, why not?
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:rofl: :rofl: :poke:
 
Well if BMW recommend using 98RON whenever possible I'll keep putting Tesco Momentum in mine.

It's only another 6p a litre so an insigificant cost in the wider scheme of things. Plus I'm not doing many miles these days thanks to you know what! :(
 
Think the thread initially started about the worth of Esso's new fuel, not Tesco's. But 6p a litre difference at Tesco for their Momentum is significantly better than Esso's premium of 27p a litre which equates to 20% more which in turn is a rip-off!
 
This is worth a read too; [youtube]https://youtu.be/wOxxPYLhBhM[/youtube]

Only Esso sell BioEtanol free fuel in the UK, despite being forced to display the E5 labling.
 
Danglesberries said:
Think the thread initially started about the worth of Esso's new fuel, not Tesco's. But 6p a litre difference at Tesco for their Momentum is significantly better than Esso's premium of 27p a litre which equates to 20% more which in turn is a rip-off!

Apologies, I could have phrased what I said better. :oops:

My point was that however great the Esso fuel is, at 27p a litre dearer I won't be buying it when I can get Momentum for an extra 6p a litre! :thumbsup:
 
Mr Tidy said:
Danglesberries said:
Think the thread initially started about the worth of Esso's new fuel, not Tesco's. But 6p a litre difference at Tesco for their Momentum is significantly better than Esso's premium of 27p a litre which equates to 20% more which in turn is a rip-off!

Apologies, I could have phrased what I said better. :oops:

My point was that however great the Esso fuel is, at 27p a litre dearer I won't be buying it when I can get Momentum for an extra 6p a litre! :thumbsup:
Ah right, I understand more clearly now. By the way, my thoughts exactly :) :)
 
E89_Gaz said:
This is worth a read too; [youtube]https://youtu.be/wOxxPYLhBhM[/youtube]

Only Esso sell BioEtanol free fuel in the UK, despite being forced to display the E5 labling.

And he ends with, "This will be the Stella Artois for your car." Now there's a highly trained, articulate and persuasive engineer speaking. Or perhaps not.
 
Busterboo said:
E89_Gaz said:
This is worth a read too; [youtube]https://youtu.be/wOxxPYLhBhM[/youtube]

Only Esso sell BioEtanol free fuel in the UK, despite being forced to display the E5 labling.

And he ends with, "This will be the Stella Artois for your car." Now there's a highly trained, articulate and persuasive engineer speaking. Or perhaps not.

I’m not going to rise to that. Mike from Bamford Rose demonstrates his abilities on a daily basis to all that use them. Very different cars/technology, but that’s irrelevant here. I thought some here may find the underlying information around fuel content interesting without carrying out some form of basic psychological analysis. :poke:
 
How predictable... After nearly nine years of very happy E89 ownership, I can confirm that it was indeed a reliable experience and a fantastic car. When it came time to change, I wanted something I could work on myself, and with a bit more ‘personality’. If I wanted reliability, I would’ve bought a Porsche...
 
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