Electricity use

Want to hear what energy consumption is like somewhere else?

We live in a rural area. Electricity is about our only fuel source, used for heating as well. The closest street lamp is 9 miles away, but a few houses have yard lights that they seem to run all night for no known reason. Yup, night sky is pretty good, though there is still very noticeable light pollution from a small town 18 miles away.

We have cold winters, our AHDD (annual heating degree (C) days, a weather metric used to calculate heating costs) is 6100, probably 150% of what many of you have. Our annual electricity usage is around 10000 kwh. We keep the thermostat quite low most of the time, 13-16C. If you took out the heating, our consumption is close to your 3300 average. Our electricity is distributed by a private cooperative, so we get a pro rata portion of what little profit is made. Thus our cost closely represents the actual cost of production and delivery, about 4.5p/kwh (GB pence, not US pennies). Cheap by US standards as well. US in general pays about what the UK does, from the sound of things.

We do use some cord wood for supplemental heat. About 1 cord (3.6 cubic metres) a winter. Sounds like a good bit of wood, but it isn't really. We used to have to go out to a forest to collect wood. In recent years, due to an extended drought combined with a surge of native pine bark beetles, our fuel wood has come from trees that have died on our property. Cutting wood is really hard work! If it weren't for the need to rid our property of dead trees, we wouldn't bother any more. It would be well worth the extra 4.5p/kwh to just turn up the thermostat.
 
Stuart Truman said:
It was never a good idea to make essential utilities private enterprises. Political scumbags doing their mates a favour and taking something that could have been not for profit and putting it in the hands of people who are only interested in a profit, and at a bargain bucket price.

And before anyone starts shouting about the Tories, Labour were just as toadying. They're all beyond words

Exactly the same here and that goes for healthcare too.
 
What do people suppose the profit margin is that's made by the Big Six on supplying domestic energy?
 
No idea, but it must be reasonable as when I said I had a better quote, they matched and took 1p per unit off both day and night rates.

That is 10% by just asking.
 
Stuart Truman said:
It was never a good idea to make essential utilities private enterprises. Political scumbags doing their mates a favour and taking something that could have been not for profit and putting it in the hands of people who are only interested in a profit, and at a bargain bucket price.

And before anyone starts shouting about the Tories, Labour were just as toadying. They're all beyond words

As I said before on a previous thread - we get the politicians we deserve. Using the elections this century so far, 37% of the population didn't even bother to turn up and spoil their ballot paper. That means nearly half the population have got no business moaning what politicians do or don't do.
 
pvr said:
No idea, but it must be reasonable as when I said I had a better quote, they matched and took 1p per unit off both day and night rates.

That is 10% by just asking.

That'll be a business energy supply I'm guessing?
 
Yes - how did you know?

I opted for business supply as it seemed cheaper than domestic.
 
Because business supplies actually make proper margins lol, and they're allowed to discount in the way you describe. Residential prices are fixed and cannot be discounted in order to retain customers in the same way that for example, Sky TV might.

Although I would check out every so often whether it still works out cheaper, it's very unusual (although not impossible) for business supplies to be cheaper than a residential tariff.

Residential margin of supply is between -2% (yes really, a minus!) and +5% profit, give or take depending on the company.
 
New tariff is 9p day / 6.5p night which I can not find anything near in domestic rates.
 
That's an awsome deal! I take it that the standing charge is reasonable as well then, very good price. I may go set myself up a business from home :)
 
just checked my latest bill...

usage for September (fairly warm Air con "On") 785kwh avg cost 11c/kwh

Electricity cost for one month = $85.55 not bad eh?

But wait !!! Add on the special charges,, tariffs and transmission fees etc, ... plus.... 5% GST and it magically becomes $145.86

WTF?
 
Stuart Truman said:
sars said:
Computers under load are expensive, 350 Watt power supply running 24 hours a day soon adds up.

Gaming systems and pro workstations are often north of 1KW now, some graphics cards are pulling 200W alone and gamers fitting two or even three of them. Interestingly, the CPU that used to pull 150w is coming right down. Some mobile CPUs heading south of 10w within a few months

Edit - just checked a workstation I am evaluating, 820w psu
You do realise that a PSU only draws the power it needs? If your needs are, say, 300W, it doesn't matter whether your PSU is 900W or 600W - both will draw the same 300W required.
 
original guvnor said:
Stuart Truman said:
It was never a good idea to make essential utilities private enterprises. Political scumbags doing their mates a favour and taking something that could have been not for profit and putting it in the hands of people who are only interested in a profit, and at a bargain bucket price.

And before anyone starts shouting about the Tories, Labour were just as toadying. They're all beyond words

As I said before on a previous thread - we get the politicians we deserve. Using the elections this century so far, 37% of the population didn't even bother to turn up and spoil their ballot paper. That means nearly half the population have got no business moaning what politicians do or don't do.

I don't disagree.
 
Spud said:
Stuart Truman said:
sars said:
Computers under load are expensive, 350 Watt power supply running 24 hours a day soon adds up.

Gaming systems and pro workstations are often north of 1KW now, some graphics cards are pulling 200W alone and gamers fitting two or even three of them. Interestingly, the CPU that used to pull 150w is coming right down. Some mobile CPUs heading south of 10w within a few months

Edit - just checked a workstation I am evaluating, 820w psu
You do realise that a PSU only draws the power it needs? If your needs are, say, 300W, it doesn't matter whether your PSU is 900W or 600W - both will draw the same 300W required.

Depending upon psu efficiency and how good the system is at power saving if put in standby. Modern systems are quite good, but psu efficiency has a long way to go, it's one area I've seen my last account spending a lot of time on.
 
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