Ah ok, thanks for the insight. I sold my e85 3.0 a year ago now and moved to the dark side! Bought myself an SLK55 AMG as I always wanted that V8 AMG sound track with huge performance. But 12mths down the line and the love affair has never really taken off. The AMG is very quick and sounds fantastic it just is not engaging and the automatic box is diabolical. That is why I am looking at the 35i, I loved my e85 and was sad when it went. Will the 35i with DSG give me back that chuckable 2 seater that I had? The 35i is not far off the performance which is what I want, but it needs to be engaging. Is the e89 and improvement over the e85 or is it going to be like my AMG ..... fast be no personality? Any advice accepted