E89 20i - Hill Assist

as promised:

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Maniac said:
I bet its something like the start stop complicating the matter. TBH, I'd rather have start stop than hill assist anyhow... I mean hill assist is nice, but not a must have, just means you have to have better clutch control, and if you're getting an auto it hardly matters anyhow with creep.
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+1

And it must be even easier now with the electronic parking brake, no more wrestling with a brake lever and pressing a button on and off in a stop/start situation.
And as you say, its not needed on an auto. :)
 
Zed_Steve said:
+1

And it must be even easier now with the electronic parking brake, no more wrestling with a brake lever and pressing a button on and off in a stop/start situation.
And as you say, its not needed on an auto. :)
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Have you tried it? The EPB has no feel. There is a delay from pressing the button until the brakes release. And you do have to pull up on it and push a button . . .
 
Proabably wrong here but I thought that the electronic handbrake in the E89 just clicked off by itself if you drove off?
 
Maniac said:
I bet its something like the start stop complicating the matter. TBH, I'd rather have start stop than hill assist anyhow... I mean hill assist is nice, but not a must have, just means you have to have better clutch control, and if you're getting an auto it hardly matters anyhow with creep.
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I thought that at first. On my Audi A1 a number of conditions have to be met before auto stop/start activates.

I've also discovered if the engine has switched off and you activate a phone call over bluetooth, it seems to automatically restart.
 
Never had electronic parking brake or hill start before but my 1'er has stop/start, and I'm struggling to see how that could affect it?

For the stop/start to work, the car needs to be in neutral with the clutch pedal released (and other battery/temp conditions need to be met).

For the hill start, the car isn't going to be in neutral, so I am confused how the stop/start comes into it, or am I getting it totally wrong?

In the 1'er, if you have the engine stopped via stop/start, and the car decides it needs the engine running (i.e. aircon or possibly power requirements) then it will start the engine on its own.
 
Our 2008 MINI had both stop/start and hill start assist. So do many other BMW built cars. In general the two work together just fine.

The R56 MINI shares a technology base with cars of the e90 3 series generation. So does the e89.
 
Andrew*Debbie said:
Our 2008 MINI had both stop/start and hill start assist. So do many other BMW built cars. In general the two work together just fine.

The R56 MINI shares a technology base with cars of the e90 3 series generation. So does the e89.
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Then they either 'forgot' (not likely) or decided to take things off to make more of a distinction between the 20i/28i and the 35i/35is? Only BMW (likely GmbH) will know...
 
I've also got a sDrive20i, bought it at the end of November. It doesn't have hill start assist, not found it an issue for me so far though, too busy enjoying the car!
 
Andrew*Debbie said:
Zed_Steve said:
+1

And it must be even easier now with the electronic parking brake, no more wrestling with a brake lever and pressing a button on and off in a stop/start situation.
And as you say, its not needed on an auto. :)
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Have you tried it? The EPB has no feel. There is a delay from pressing the button until the brakes release. And you do have to pull up on it and push a button . . .
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Well having an E89 myself yes i have tried it. I can certainly feel the brakes being engaged, and disengaged when operating the EPB. There is a slight delay when applying the EPB, but it seems fairly instant when its released. Its just a matter of pushing and pulling a small lever. Im sure once you get used to it you'll be fine.
 
Ok now I'm really confused

My car is 2 months old 2.0sdrive built late November 2011

According to above info it shouldn't have hill assist but it behaves as if it does. Every morning I have to turn left at two uphill junctions, the car isn't warm enough for auto stop start to activate but if I use the hand brake there's definitely a short delay defore it releases, if I only use the foot brake there's also a short delay after releasing the pedal before the car rolls backwards.

Going to talk to the dealer this weekend so I'll see what they think! ( picking up new 3 series so we'll be there anyway). Either I have hill assist or my brakes are sticking!

:cry:
 
Only owned my 35i for a couple days and did noticed sometimes it holded on my slopped drive without rolling sometimes.... realise now i have hill assist and surprised as well for a manual car with this clever feature.
 
An update on the issue I have with Hill Assist.
The dealer with help from BMW uk are putting me in a brand new 20i auto next weekend, at no cost to me.
So it's a win win situation, I get a 12 plate 2012 car replacing my 61 plate, they are transferring my payments to date into the new finance.
I'll post some photo's next weekend ?
 
Happy to hear the BMW came through for you. :thumbsup:

Trivia:
-- In the US they call this a "Trade Assist."

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BMW UK have not responded to my email.
Hill-start Assistant is still listed as standard equipment for all Z4's on the website and in the downloadable brochure.
 
Thanks guy's.
I pretty happy, there also putting me up in a 4 star hotel for the night which is a nice gesture from the dealer.
 
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