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[MACK]

To be honest I think this whole character assassination lowers the tone of the forum, Mack you just come across now as someone with a vendetta constantly banging your drum.. you've made your point.. dozens of times.. in multiple threads. I agree Mike needs to be a stand up guy and address the issues facing some unhappy customers but lets not hang draw and quarter someone in their absence and without actually knowing whether some personal life issues are affecting the guy. :thumbsdown:

As i suspected from your post mr.tourette a very quick search on here and its abundantly clear your a fan/friend of Mikes. So its pretty clear your actually the one with the agenda here. He's had all the time in the world to speak up and defend himself, hes the one that has chose not to and as time goes by the stories about just seem to be getting worse. If you dont like reading detrimental posts about Mike well you know what to do.

Whatever mate.. I have no agenda, i take people as I find them as Im all grown up now. :wink: the fact you had to search my posts shows your obsession with proving some kind of point, yes Ive used his garage 3 times before this whole saga blew up and like with other members he's done a good job at a good price, therefore in my experience I can recommend him... obviously thats not to say everyone has the same experience. my only relationship with him is strictly customer/client.. thats it.. just because you have an axe to grind dont assume everyone with a different point of view has an agenda, its arrogant and condescending.

Arrogant and condescending, just like accusing me of having a vendetta then. :headbang: If anyone's got an axe to grind its you with me or you wouldnt have taken the time to attack me twice now. Completely hypocritical, who's assassinating character and lowering the tone of the forum now? Surely not you, your all grown up apparently! :rofl:

 

[mr.tourette]

As i suspected from your post mr.tourette a very quick search on here and its abundantly clear your a fan/friend of Mikes. So its pretty clear your actually the one with the agenda here. He's had all the time in the world to speak up and defend himself, hes the one that has chose not to and as time goes by the stories about just seem to be getting worse. If you dont like reading detrimental posts about Mike well you know what to do.

Whatever mate.. I have no agenda, i take people as I find them as Im all grown up now. :wink: the fact you had to search my posts shows your obsession with proving some kind of point, yes Ive used his garage 3 times before this whole saga blew up and like with other members he's done a good job at a good price, therefore in my experience I can recommend him... obviously thats not to say everyone has the same experience. my only relationship with him is strictly customer/client.. thats it.. just because you have an axe to grind dont assume everyone with a different point of view has an agenda, its arrogant and condescending.

Arrogant and condescending, just like accusing people of having a vendetta. Completely hypocritical, who's lowering the tone of the forum now?! :rofl:

You just can't accept anyone having a different option to you can you? There is nothing hypocritical about my comments.. I don't have to do a search of your posts to know your opinion of dlv do I.. Its all over the forum for all to see! I won't get dragged any further into this as being a keyboard warrior is not by bag as much as it yours, today I felt like I had to say something as Its tiring reading your constant whining.. I'm sure you'll have another condescending comment to make but you won't get a further rise from me

 

[MACK]

Whatever mate.. I have no agenda, i take people as I find them as Im all grown up now. :wink: the fact you had to search my posts shows your obsession with proving some kind of point, yes Ive used his garage 3 times before this whole saga blew up and like with other members he's done a good job at a good price, therefore in my experience I can recommend him... obviously thats not to say everyone has the same experience. my only relationship with him is strictly customer/client.. thats it.. just because you have an axe to grind dont assume everyone with a different point of view has an agenda, its arrogant and condescending.

Arrogant and condescending, just like accusing people of having a vendetta. Completely hypocritical, who's lowering the tone of the forum now?! :rofl:

You just can't accept anyone having a different option to you can you? There is nothing hypocritical about my comments.. I don't have to do a search of your posts to know your opinion of dlv do I.. Its all over the forum for all to see! I won't get dragged any further into this as being a keyboard warrior is not by bag as much as it yours, today I felt like I had to say something as Its tiring reading your constant whining.. I'm sure you'll have another condescending comment to make but you won't get a further rise from me

Don't read my comments then, it really is that simple, its not compulsory. You like Mike and I dont fair enough. But you seem to feel its OK to promote him repeatedly as you've done previously but its not on doing the opposite.
As for condescending you do seem to like that word but are completely oblivious to the fact it sums you up perfectly. So much for not lowering the tone you complete hypocrite.

 

[Joycey]

I hope he does cease trading, this is what I feared would happen.

He's going to tarnish a good name i've spent years building up on and moving in the same circles won't it end well! :headbang:

 

[ben g]

I hope he does cease trading, this is what I feared would happen.

He's going to tarnish a good name i've spent years building up on and moving in the same circles won't it end well! :headbang:

I always thought your zedshed was part of dlv's zedshed? I'm confused now :lol:

Edit: wtf, that trading name is banned on here :lol:

 

[Gazhyde]

I always thought your ******* was part of dlv's *******? I'm confused now :lol:

Joycey and I have been using the <insert filtered name here> for around 5 years or so, DLV signed up on my groups and was even invited to a few of our regional <insert filtered name here> events. All of the work we do under that banner is done free, with people giving up theirs skills and time to help out others.

He liked what we did so much he decided to pinch the good name we'd built up for his "business" (if you can call it that). If people want to catch up with him, then why not drop in on his Facebook page, he's plenty active on there so you're bound to get a quick response...

 

[bz4kev]

Wow just wow :fuelfire:

 

[GuidoK]

He liked what we did so much he decided to pinch the good name we'd built up for his "business" (if you can call it that).

He really did that? Without your concent?
I expressed my wonders about that at the beginning of this topic, but mainly (or secretly) thinking that he didnt know of the existence of your zed shed and not having done the homework to choose a company name.
But he was totally aware of your name and the concept of your organisation?.... :|

 

[Gazhyde]

He liked what we did so much he decided to pinch the good name we'd built up for his "business" (if you can call it that).

He really did that? Without your concent?
I expressed my wonders about that at the beginning of this topic, but mainly (or secretly) thinking that he didnt know of the existence of your zed shed and not having done the homework to choose a company name.
But he was totally aware of your name and the concept of your organisation?.... :|

C’est la vie, I guess. Didn’t think that something we do for others would somehow end up being filtered on the internet because of someone unrelated. It’s hard to untangle the two entities now, as this thread pretty much proves. :headbang:

 

[GuidoK]

It’s hard to untangle the two entities now, as this thread pretty much proves. :headbang:

I'm sure this is now a well read thread on the forum so now people hopefully know they're 2 completely different things .
Hopefully your Zed shed doesn't get any more crap from DLV's doing as I think what you're doing with your concept is quite respectable .
Also shows that its good to keep threads like this open and not close or delete like some seem to think.
Sometimes the layer under dirt is....more dirt.

 

[hopz121]

Poor form, I understand the guy may have issues but he shouldn’t be taking peoples cash and ripping them off!

The name was never his to use and the guys who own the name have been very understanding about the whole situation I can’t say I would have been as calm about it all.

I see by his Facebook that he seems to still be trading and none of these bad reviews seem to be on there so maybe people should add them there too so people see him for who he really has become.

I also think the forum need to remove any affiliation with him and remove these posts too!

 

[IRD]

Is this really the pleasant competent guy who went out of his way to come and move my roof motor? :?

 

[mr wilks]

Is this really the pleasant competent guy who went out of his way to come and move my roof motor? :?

For free :?

 

[IRD]

Is this really the pleasant competent guy who went out of his way to come and move my roof motor? :?

For free :?

No it wasn’t for free Andy. But he came a fair few miles out of his way to come to Lincoln on his way home from Cambridgeshire where he had been doing a few cars there and charged nothing extra. Maybe I am just a bit naive but he seemed very pleasant. You can only speak as you find. I am not doubting what has been written in these two threads. Dreadful behaviour but it’s just hard to match the guy I met to all that’s happened. If I had suffered in the way some folk have I would be furious too. Life and people never cease to surprise me. :roll:

 

[mr wilks]

Is this really the pleasant competent guy who went out of his way to come and move my roof motor? :?

For free :?

No it wasn’t for free Andy. But he came a fair few miles out of his way to come to Lincoln on his way home from Cambridgeshire where he had been doing a few cars there and charged nothing extra. Maybe I am just a bit naive but he seemed very pleasant. You can only speak as you find. I am not doubting what has been written in these two threads. Dreadful behaviour but it’s just hard to match the guy I met to all that’s happened. If I had suffered in the way some folk have I would be furious too. Life and people never cease to surprise me. :roll:

Ive met Mike , seemed a genuine character who came into Zs initially for his own use , clearly skilled with his hands he was stood behind the door when opportunity knocked & wasted no time yanking it open .
You can't please everyone all the time & from here on its up to individuals to either continue using his services or not .

 

[ronk]

Even at this stage, the fella could still fix the harm!

 

[IRD]

For free :?

No it wasn’t for free Andy. But he came a fair few miles out of his way to come to Lincoln on his way home from Cambridgeshire where he had been doing a few cars there and charged nothing extra. Maybe I am just a bit naive but he seemed very pleasant. You can only speak as you find. I am not doubting what has been written in these two threads. Dreadful behaviour but it’s just hard to match the guy I met to all that’s happened. If I had suffered in the way some folk have I would be furious too. Life and people never cease to surprise me. :roll:

Ive met Mike , seemed a genuine character who came into Zs initially for his own use , clearly skilled with his hands he was stood behind the door when opportunity knocked & wasted no time yanking it open .
You can't please everyone all the time & from here on its up to individuals to either continue using his services or not .

Yup! We’re all free to make our own choices but you like to think when you are making them they are informed choices.

 

[GuidoK]

Even at this stage, the fella could still fix the harm!

How?
You think he'll change the name of his business?
I mean the trade differences between DLV and members here could be accounted to the reports of his ill daughter (although I can't imagine how, as he's trading and facebooking away as we speak) or be based on a hugely far fetched and uncomfortable misunderstanding (although the more reports, the more unlikely that is of course), but knowingly stealing another organisations' name affiliated in the business that is non profit even, is pretty much a deliberate act (of bastardness) if you ask me....
I mean, I'm also a business owner, and if someone started a business in my line of work with the same name knowingly (almost impossible otherwise as I work in an extreme niche business), I'd know how I'd feel....

 

[ronk]

I must admit that I got a bit lost off with the (I always thought your ******* was part of dlv's *******? I'm confused now) bit!
Can anybody summarise the current situation?

 

[Marlon]

Can anybody summarise the current situation?

I'll try - there are roughly 2 camps in 'DLV-gate':

Those who believe DLV is basically a good guy who started out on the forum with the best intentions but for reasons no one can fathom, is making some very poor decisions and letting customers down.

And

Those who believe DLV purposely manipulated and took advantage of the forum from day one, including taking the business name from an established non-profit group with the sole intention of profiteering and is wilfully ignoring any customer complaints.