Down to a choice of 3 tyres

[Popey]

So I’m running standard 18” rims on the my Z4M. I’ve narrowed it down to 3 tyres:

MP Super Sports - highly regarded but old tech?

MP Sport 4s - Seem good value

Goodyear Eagle F1 super sport - good reviews and good value

Any thoughts on the above, will be replacing all 4.

My Vreds have cracked due to lack of use and… TBH tlc.

 

[jenniferlouise]

When I’ve asked a similar Q I was advised Contis. And I think there are some offers on the new 7s

I’m keen to get the Bridgestone RFTs off, but the car is doing v low mileage (currently SORN), I’ve lots of tread and I’ve other priorities to my slim budget (I’m a pensioner) so it’s on the list. Reviews of the Contis is favourable (and I always ran them on lease cars) and I’ve seen mixed stuff on Eagles.

I guess it’s a lot how you drive it and what suspension / rim you’re running too. I’ve considered a mid range too for the 3k miles I’m racking up each year

I guess your best feedback will be from those that have recently made the change… it’s an expensive decision and wish you luck! We will be watching…

 

[Special Kay]

I think I'd go with the conti's. I've only ever had positive experiences with the conti's. A great choice

 

[mmm-five]

F1 Supersport is the Goodyear equivalent of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.

The Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (no S) is the equivalent of the Goodyear Asymmetric 5.

However the Michelin PS5 is out now, as is the ContiSportContact 7, and Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 6…and I’d be perfectly happy with any of those 3.

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[beanie]

The new Conti UUHP (SC7?) is supposed to be the current king and if you can get the right sizes, they’re probably the ones to go for.

Of the others, the Goodyear F1SS is supposedly a bit sharper and stiffer than the MPS4S and is arguably a better choice for the dry weather, sportier driver (I run these and am very happy/impressed with them). The Michelin, as always, is a great tyre but a common complaint is the softer sidewall compared to some others in the class. However, that might be a good thing depending on your point of view.

I wouldn’t bother with MPSS. They’re probably just as good as the others in warm, dry conditions but as they’re an old model (are they still making them?) I’d be concerned that you’d end up with some old stock that are already a few years old.

If you’ve got time to kill then I’d recommend looking at the ‘tyre reviews’ YouTube channel-loads of good info and tests on there.

 

[Popey]

No Conti SC7 to fit the M with standard 18” rims.

Looks like EF1SS or 4S’s…

 

[jamie_z4]

as mentioned above, PS5's are out now, I have them on my 480bhp RWD 140i and they actually put the power down. It had pilot super sports on before and the grip quite noticeably worse.

 

[plenty]

The PS4S is not available in the E85/6 sizes. The PS4 and PS5 are, as well as Goodyear AS5, AS6 and Supersport.

And unless you like to drive *very* hard it is unlikely you will notice the difference between any of these on a Z4M.

 

[coldel]

To be honest, all UHP you are talking about have marginal differences in performance, I would just go for the ones with the best deal on. In tests remember they are testing them on or just below 100% whereas you will most of the time be driving at 7/10th's, if that.

I saw a great deal on MPS4's (got all four fitted for £440 on my Z4C) and havent crashed into a ditch or anything yet!

 

[mr.tourette]

To be honest, all UHP you are talking about have marginal differences in performance, I would just go for the ones with the best deal on. In tests remember they are testing them on or just below 100% whereas you will most of the time be driving at 7/10th's, if that.

I saw a great deal on MPS4's (got all four fitted for £440 on my Z4C) and havent crashed into a ditch or anything yet!

This is very true, its easy to get hung up on the latest tests when truth is any of the top 10 UHP tyres are pretty equal on the road, doing regular trackdays with them then thats a different matter and you are almost certainly looking for the best performing tyre

 

[plenty]

I realised around 6-7 years ago that tyre technology has got to the point where any branded UHP tyre's grip in the dry will outweigh your ability to use it on the road.

I've driven PS4, PS4S, Goodyear Asymmetric and Goodyear Supersports at nine to 10/10ths on dry private roads in 400+bhp cars (when conditions allowed and not in the UK) and I can attest they all offer more than adequate performance.

Of course, tyre makers need to sell tyres and reviewers need readers so they'll continue to extol the virtues of new products, but as far as I'm concerned we're well into diminishing returns. I think where there may possibly be some meaningful variation is performance in the wet and in colder temperatures, but I only ever drive hard in warmer dry climes so can't offer any feedback on that.

The other variation as mentioned above is sidewall stiffness - the Pilot Super Sport (and trackday semi-slicks) have much stiffer sidewalls than any of the other models mentioned, which some people prefer

 

[coldel]

It also doesnt help when you get said tyre reviewers who have no idea on how to present data.

Like this video where all their charts excerbate the differences in performance...because they do not start the scale at zero. Yes they have the numbers, but the sole point of bar charts is to show a visual of the data comparatively, which by chopping off most of the scale, doesnt accurately represent

[youtube]https://youtu.be/t10y-87oiD4?t=1000[/youtube]