Disaster - EML DSC ENGINE - Just lit up like a Xmas tree

Yes...

The EML and CEL will be twigged by the DME>...

But each control unit has a return signal path to the main DME... If the can line (whether it be "star or daisy chain") has been broken,it is the return signal path to the main DME that will register a fault and then in turn,twig the EML or CEL..
This can give false fault codes....

Like you say though....The fault path can be causing by failing power,unfortunatly just fault codes dont give nearly enough info to create an accurate diagnostic path for repair.
 
Mangozac said:
Z4M-2006 said:
So if the can line between 2 or 3 modules has broken,then the warning lights for the 2-3 modules wouldnt light up ? Even though they had a communication problem ?
Your line of thought isn't wrong, but the CAN bus isn't necessarily daisy chained like that (it will be a combination of star and daisy chain layouts). Plus, I would expect the EML and CEL lights to come directly from the ECU itself, so there's no connection there to be lost.

Power is definitely a common denominator here and is the first thing to check.

Battery is fine use a trickle feed with reconditioning aspect to it. No problem with power source all indications are its good.

Anyways fired it up yesterday rev counter hunted a wee bit on the drive way, no faults came up. Had the feeling if i booted from coldish would throw errors again so waited a wee bit. Nice and easy driving no faults.

Took it to the local By-pass to open her up and got pulled by an unmarked car (bmw 330d saloon black 60 plate). The dirty sods baited me.

They were sitting 4 car lengths back from a lorry which was doing 40 mph..... i approached and over took the bmw and nipped into the space between lorry and cops. I was a wee bit disgusted that the beemer was just sitting there with a clear road ahead and not over taking the lorry. Apparently i overtook the rozzers at 82 mph. Anyway s they didn't pull me then. They waited.

After about two more roundabouts the road opens up to a crawler lane then further up a dual carriage way. They sat behind me waiting. I hit the crawler lane and opened her right up hoping to blow any faults away.

They then preceded to follow at a peculiar set distance about 7 car lengths behind. I was starting to get a wee bit suspicious now, i spent a good few seconds trying to see if 2 passengers were in the front but i couldn't be sure cos of the black car and black interior. I hit another roundabout and doubled back along the bypass which was now dual carriage way (70 limit) and floored it. The bmw doubled back also now i was getting worried booted it till about 75 and pulled into inside lane to let them pass. They pulled out into over take lane and hit heir blues. f**k. :evil:

Thought i was going to get banned as i was sure i hit over a hundred briefly. Turns out they clocked me at 90 - 92mph , 3 points and a £100 fine, bye bye clean licence . :(

On the positive side stored car in garage last night started her up no faults and idle revs stable. took her for a drive kept the revs down till lights off no problems. Fault code reader shows no faults.

I'm going to leave the car outside tonight to see if the idle hunts in the morning.....im pretty sure now its down to damp or moisture.

Oh and i now drive like a granny :D
 
Bad luck on meeting the rozzers mate; it's a massive concern for anyone with a high powered car these days - you've got to be really careful in picking your moments and keeping your eyes peeled. Deserted rods are the only safe ones and even then, you've only got a couple of gears to play with before you have to back off. s'alright though, I'm sure we've all had speeding points in the past - I remember getting two fixed penalties within an hour of each other about 10 years ago!
Stevo
 
stevo///m3 said:
Bad luck on meeting the rozzers mate; it's a massive concern for anyone with a high powered car these days - you've got to be really careful in picking your moments and keeping your eyes peeled. Deserted rods are the only safe ones and even then, you've only got a couple of gears to play with before you have to back off. s'alright though, I'm sure we've all had speeding points in the past - I remember getting two fixed penalties within an hour of each other about 10 years ago!
Stevo

Yup, 13 years a clean license and some pretty handy cars along the way. 6 months in a Z4M and I bag a speeding awareness course! Dammit!
Mobile camera's appear to be out in force at the moment.
 
Izice said:
Thought i was going to get banned as i was sure i hit over a hundred briefly. Turns out they clocked me at 90 - 92mph , 3 points and a £100 fine, bye bye clean licence . :(
Bastards for baiting you like that! If it's an consolation, you got off pretty lightly compared to here in Oz. That much over the fine would have been several times higher.

Z4M-2006"Like you say though....The fault path can be causing by failing power said:
Yeah the bottom line is that a session with INPA would go a long way towards helping to diagnose the problem.

Izice said:
Battery is fine use a trickle feed with reconditioning aspect to it. No problem with power source all indications are its good.
In that case I'd be surprised if it was the battery (it's not impossible, but pretty unlikely). Throwing three fault codes like that my money is still on it being a power issue - which may be related to connections somewhere. Do you not know anybody with INPA that can do some diagnostics for you?
 
Was never a battery issue - but likely a cable or connection issue. If it was a battery issue - car wouldn't have cranked correctly after initial rough idle. If there is a poor ground or connection somewhere that doesn't involve the starter (starter grounds through itself) - this is likely your intermittent issue. Other than that, I can see no other reason CEL & DSC lights would come on at the same time.
 
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