I just don't know how I'll realistically break my existing one to prove to my wife we need a new one... :rofl:
Digital Cluster
- Thread starter AnubisZed
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OK some more info.....
Q - If someone wanted to swap back to their original cluster, would that still be possible without issue?
A - Yes, it`s no problem not change anything of OEM cluster
Q - Can you change the look of the cluster?
A - Yes, but need good quantity for custom the UI
Q - So it comes as one style from factory? Not changeable by customer later?
A - Yes can't change by customer latter, not allow customer change UI. Linux system，very stable, plug and play, I sold 100 pcs cluster 0 refund
Q - Do you have a video of one installed working showing it in use? Any BMW model
A - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hidmaE1GfM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux1XKRJFtIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SShA_7JV_A4
Q - One of those videos shows it to be a lcd panel and plastic front. I thought it was a all-in-one assembly that was identical to the original cluster.
Was the one in the video a pre production test one?
A - same as OEM, it's E90 with 2 part.
So there you have it. It is limited to the UI (clock style) that has been posted above, but you can have some individual set up within what is there.
Any specific questions then please post below and I'll pass these on.
Here's a few of mine that I'll send him tomorrow,
The M logo, can it be removed?
Is it changeable from KPH to MPH?
Will it display Cruise Control info?
Quite a few setting from the BC stalk are displayed and adjusted through the cluster, can these still be done this way?
When changing from Normal to Sport, to Sport+ will this be displayed on the screen, as it does now?
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Q - If someone wanted to swap back to their original cluster, would that still be possible without issue?
A - Yes, it`s no problem not change anything of OEM cluster
Q - Can you change the look of the cluster?
A - Yes, but need good quantity for custom the UI
Q - So it comes as one style from factory? Not changeable by customer later?
A - Yes can't change by customer latter, not allow customer change UI. Linux system，very stable, plug and play, I sold 100 pcs cluster 0 refund
Q - Do you have a video of one installed working showing it in use? Any BMW model
A - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hidmaE1GfM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux1XKRJFtIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SShA_7JV_A4
Q - One of those videos shows it to be a lcd panel and plastic front. I thought it was a all-in-one assembly that was identical to the original cluster.
Was the one in the video a pre production test one?
A - same as OEM, it's E90 with 2 part.
So there you have it. It is limited to the UI (clock style) that has been posted above, but you can have some individual set up within what is there.
Any specific questions then please post below and I'll pass these on.
Here's a few of mine that I'll send him tomorrow,
The M logo, can it be removed?
Is it changeable from KPH to MPH?
Will it display Cruise Control info?
Quite a few setting from the BC stalk are displayed and adjusted through the cluster, can these still be done this way?
When changing from Normal to Sport, to Sport+ will this be displayed on the screen, as it does now?
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They can't spell tyre or colour properly so start-up may be a step too far IMO :wink:Nictrix said:
When I look at these 'modern' digital displays with the angled main instruments, I just think of old computer games. :wink:
There was a Car SOS where they did a Lotus Esprit and got a 'bespoke' digital display for it. I thought that was done in the UK?
ProfCJJ said:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I’m struggling to comprehend how some Chinese coders / copies of other peoples code will have done a structured assessment of likely failure modes and produced redundant code to ensure continuity….
Given the likely market size , the type of user I’d think there will be close to zippo chance of any relevant post product customisation..
All IMHO…
A - UI and font and themes customer can`t changeAnubisZed said:
A = Of courseAnubisZed said:
A - Yes,AnubisZed said:
A - All Cluster controled by OEM buttonsAnubisZed said:
A - Yes, Can change to sports mode same as OME sportsAnubisZed said:
A - Yes, lol, But change to uk English, USA not like it.Nictrix said:
My reply - More people speak UK English in the world than US English
we invented the language. Maybe another option in the language settings, US English or Proper English
A - UK English fine
B21 said:
OK so I've sent him this info and his reply was....
"1gb RAM 16gb ROM"
Me - Is the Linux the Automotive grade version?
A - no，cannot automotive grade. upgrade by USB, it come with a USB
Me - So, if its not automotive grade, then what happens if something goes wrong?
A - use USB upgrade. usually no need upgrade. it's very stable
Me - I'm not up on what the difference is between standard Linux and Automotive Linux, but as he has asked the question and looked it up already, if it is supposed to be Automotive grade for a reason then surely it should be for safety reasons.
No response.
Sorry guys, but I'm getting ready to walk away from this. It's starting to look like something that'll do the job, in a fancy way but then that's it.
This last questiong has me worried, if there should be a latent redundency built-in then so be it, but this obviousley doesn't have it.
I'm trying my hardest to get him to send me one as soon as they have one available so I can install it and give it a real-world test to give an honest opinion. I'm being 100% up front with you all, I'm not paying £600 for something that is limited and doesn't do at least everything my current one can do. A 1 minute video doesn't cut it, I need hard evidence of it doing what it's supposed to do, before I can recommend it.
I will keep you all informed just as soon as I have some more info
Good research work !
Having 'suffered' from a number of poorly coded Chinese products I share your concerns..several have hard coded US / metric units /language which you are stuck with..
I keep trying to like the ID 4 version..
https://id4motion.shop/collections/digital-instrument-clusters/products/bmw-z4-e89-digital-cluster
But unless you desperately want a change of dial style its (to me) not compelling especially with the butchery you have to do..
I see from a Youtube that the ID4 version has some lag in certain modes..
You don't see many broken E89 instrument clusters..
Carry on researching..
To be fair, a lot of things that would make these things nicer, like adding support for navigation instructions, media choices etc are all limited by the original and out of date / not supported code in the old OE boxes...
Having 'suffered' from a number of poorly coded Chinese products I share your concerns..several have hard coded US / metric units /language which you are stuck with..
I keep trying to like the ID 4 version..
https://id4motion.shop/collections/digital-instrument-clusters/products/bmw-z4-e89-digital-cluster
But unless you desperately want a change of dial style its (to me) not compelling especially with the butchery you have to do..
I see from a Youtube that the ID4 version has some lag in certain modes..
You don't see many broken E89 instrument clusters..
Carry on researching..
To be fair, a lot of things that would make these things nicer, like adding support for navigation instructions, media choices etc are all limited by the original and out of date / not supported code in the old OE boxes...
The thing is I've only just retrofitted a cluster with the OE cruise control (ie; the LED's around the speedo) in mine so even if I do end up with one for testing I may not actually keep it in there.
I am concerned about the fact that they've made a cluster to look like a new BMW but not considered that different people may want different styles, and for the sake of a bit of built-in customisation they may loose a lot of sales. ID4Motion give you something to start with and the option for change, all be it at an extra cost.
I am concerned about the fact that they've made a cluster to look like a new BMW but not considered that different people may want different styles, and for the sake of a bit of built-in customisation they may loose a lot of sales. ID4Motion give you something to start with and the option for change, all be it at an extra cost.
AnubisZed said:B21 said:
OK so I've sent him this info and his reply was....
"1gb RAM 16gb ROM"
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Me - Is the Linux the Automotive grade version?
A - no，cannot automotive grade. upgrade by USB, it come with a USB
Me - So, if its not automotive grade, then what happens if something goes wrong?
A - use USB upgrade. usually no need upgrade. it's very stable
Me - I'm not up on what the difference is between standard Linux and Automotive Linux, but as he has asked the question and looked it up already, if it is supposed to be Automotive grade for a reason then surely it should be for safety reasons.
No response.
Sorry guys, but I'm getting ready to walk away from this. It's starting to look like something that'll do the job, in a fancy way but then that's it.
This last questiong has me worried, if there should be a latent redundency built-in then so be it, but this obviousley doesn't have it.
I'm trying my hardest to get him to send me one as soon as they have one available so I can install it and give it a real-world test to give an honest opinion. I'm being 100% up front with you all, I'm not paying £600 for something that is limited and doesn't do at least everything my current one can do. A 1 minute video doesn't cut it, I need hard evidence of it doing what it's supposed to do, before I can recommend it.
I will keep you all informed just as soon as I have some more info
Thanks for the due diligence. I am under no illusions that this will be all tightly sewn up and perfect, but sometimes the answers you get to questions put tells you loads …
One thing I don’t like is the use of Serif Fonts (such as Times Roman) and the lack of customisation makes it less appealing …
