Dice Install - How To

ay8306

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Connecticut
Well I finally have caught up with the 21st century and got an iPod and installed the Dice adaptor in my Z4. The installation was straightforward, but (for me anyway) a bit more time consuming than some have said. By far the most difficult part was the removal (and reinstallation) of the carpet pieces.

The first piece to be removed was the carpet portion covering the trunk floor ahead of the battery compartment. This piece is held in with two plastic plugs (the kind with the barbs) and velcro and removed easily enough.

The next piece to be removed was the vertical piece covering the front (toward the front of the car that is) of the trunk. Poking through this piece of carpet is the manual top release, which consists of a small plastic disk attached to a string. I made two small slits in the carpet behind the disk and pushed the disk through the carpet (like a button through a button hole). When reassembled, the slits are behind the disk and not visible.

There are 4 plastic screws holding the carpet in place in the back corners. Removal of this piece involves using a flat blade screw driver to unscrew the screws while working your hands behind the carpet to hold the nut from turning. For me, this turned out to be the most time consuming aspect of the whole project. I found it very hard to work my hands behind the carpet while reaching deep into the trunk. The trunk is too small to “climb into” and I found the reach left me in an awkward and uncomfortable position. With a bit of persistence, I was able to remove the screws (without losing the plastic nuts behind the carpet) and fold the vertical carpet piece up and out of the way.

Photo of the right side of the carpet with the nuts removed:
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Once this was done, I found a large box for the DSP unit (that’s what the label on it said anyway) mounted to the passenger compartment wall with a black metal bracket. The DSP unit was attached to the bracket with a Velcro strap and was easily removed. I started hunting for the CD changer connecters, but was not having much luck. I was tugging on a cable behind the bracket, but was afraid to pull too hard. I then removed the bracket (which was held on with 5 nuts of 2 different sizes). I was then able to see the cables with the connectors tucked underneath the plastic box which forms the back and sides of the center storage compartment. The back of this box is visible through the large rectangular cutout in the metal wall. I was able to pry up the bottom of the box with a screw driver and fish out the connectors. Next, it was a simple matter of plugging the Dice cable into the two connectors and plugging the other end of this cable into the Dice unit itself.

Photo of the bracket with the DSP box removed (note the connecters have already been installed in this photo):
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Photo with the DSP re-installed (Note that the Dice unit itself is not visible, it will go in the space indicated):
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At this time, I plugged the iPod cable into the Dice unit and tested the connection to the iPod itself. With everything working as expected I decided to begin reassembly. To route the iPod cable into the passenger compartment you could run the cable under the plastic box and through the punch out hole just below the hinges to compartment door in the passenger compartment. I decided that it would be to difficult to fish the rather large connectors on this cable in this tight space, so I drilled a ½” dia. hole in the back of the black plastic box and pushed the connecter from the passenger compartment into the trunk. I then reinstalled the metal bracket for the DSP unit and the DSP unit itself.

I then coiled up the extra wire (the cable is quite long) and tucked the unit up to the left of the DSP unit. Remembering what a difficult time I had removing the carpet, I decided to test the unit again before buttoning everything up. It was a good thing to, because I found that the iPod cable had become disconnected from the Dice unit. After reconnecting it, I used a tie wrap to strain relieve the cable and prevent the connector from pulling loose again (to do this I tightly wrapped a section of the iPod cable to the coil of wire running to the CD connectors leaving a bit of slack between the iPod cable and the Dice unit).

I then pulled down the vertical carpet peice and pushed the top release through the slit. Next came the most difficult part of the entire job, reinstalling the plastic screws and nuts holding the carpet in place. The good news is that the nut threads are designed with a one way taper which allows the screws to be simply pushed in (i.e.; you do not have to twist them together). It still found it extremely awkward to reach behind the carpet and hold the nuts, gather together the two carpet pieces, align the holes, and push the screws in place, all working blind, while reaching deep into the trunk. With this done, it was a simple matter to reinstall the carpet floor and complete the job.

So far, I have been thrilled with the sound quality coming from the iPod. The steering wheel controls work fine, and the song titles display on the stereo head unit, all as advertised.
 
i want to buy a dice adapter but i want to see how it's gonna show on my nav screen ?! can u post some pics.

where can i buy it from ?!

i looked in amazon but don't know which one to take and on there web site they have some questions i have to fill but i don't know about my radio system or DSP something like that !!

i have an ipod interface in my Z from BMW but i hate it cuz i can't search for the song i want :x
 
kal said:
i have an ipod interface in my Z from BMW but i hate it cuz i can't search for the song i want :x

You'll be disappointed with the dice then too.

The display its pretty worthless - either full screen with partial song display in the top left hand corner, or split screen with track number on the left, and Nav text data on the right.

Also, you can't easily scroll through your playlists, and at the end of a playlist it just repeats the last track as opposed to starting it again.

And finally, it takes over your screen - you get about 5 seconds on the other screens only before it reverts back to the ipod data.

Very poor unit in my opinion.
 
kal said:
i want to buy a dice adapter but i want to see how it's gonna show on my nav screen ?! can u post some pics.

I have full professional Nav on mine and to be honest I stopped using the DICE's ID tag showing on the screen as you can only have either the Text Info OR the nav screen. Every second or so the ID tags update and you lose the navigation maps...so you either navigate or you watch the Music text....I just listen to the music and have the maps showing

I have also started experiencing a LOT of interference and Tom from EAS who I purchased it from has suggested to return the unit. As I'm on my 2nd unit already, if I send it back again I would have paid half the unit's price on shipping costs thus far..

Don't get me wrong I REALLY like having it but it is far from an elegant device.
 
Ok, after bringing it up to my husband twice a day for the last month I have finally ordered the Dice system! Yay! I have a feeling I'm going to be visiting this thread a lot next weekend. I can't wait to get rid of that mouse tail out of the cabin and close the ash tray lid! :dance2:
 
I installed mine so the iPod is inside of the center console storage unit and love it. I don't use MP3 format with millions of songs on my iPod (I only burn my CDs in Apple Lossless format) so typically I carry around anywhere from 5-20 hours of music and use it like an extended CD changer where everything is in a playlist.

The result is that I could care less about seeing the display of where I am in the playlist or what song is up and I just sit back and enjoy the music with the Nav map display on all the time. Works great this way and I never listen to the radio at all and never have to fumble with CDs while I am driving. I installed the DICE interface in my car 2 days after I took delivery and never have bothered to set any FM stations on the audio system.
 
What about the HD radio? You don't use it at all? My main reason for buying it is so I don't have the ipod dangling around in the car.
 
Sorry I know this doesn't apply technically but how is the display on a non sat nav car? Will I still only get half the song titles and not be able to browse through them?

On a side note, I thought everyone worked best with their hands in tight places where they couldn't see anything 8)
 
Ok, the thing is finally installed. I keep getting this "speed dialing" ipod screen. Is this normal?? I hope it wasn't plugged into the wrong wire. Truthfully, I have yet to be impressed by the unit. The construction of the unit is pretty flimsy, the instructions blow, and the HD antenna doesn't even come close to reaching. I assume the moron who created it drives a Fiat 500. If my husband hadn't busted his ass all morning installing it I would flipping out right now. Do you guys have any tips on operating the damn thing?
 
If someone who already has this installed has 10 minutes and could give me a call I would really appreciate it. I'm on the verge of a meltdown and can't get support on a saturday. 770.880.6568
 
The one thing you will need to make sure you do is set the clock on your car after you had the battery disconnected. For some reason this sends the DICE/Radio controls into bonkers mode and gives the symptoms you have described. Some kind of odd interaction with the car's computer but until you have reset all of your computer functions the DICE unit acts kinda weird.

Check the instructions carefully and disable the iPod text to regain your sanity. This is done by pressing DISC 6 followed by one of the DICE codes to change the mode. I personally have mine set for 99 (no text) with the DIP switches set for DICE mode instead of iPod.
 
I never have understood what the big deal is about the dice install!!!!! I installed mine in about 15 seconds


 
Ahh - but my DICE makes nicer sounds than yours do

:P :P

I do have to admit that yours was an easier install. :roll:
 
I have just installed the dice system in my 2004 Z4. All is well, but I cannot browse Albums or playlists; it just displays 'ALBUM' or 'PLAYLIST'. I've tried contacting Dice electronics, but as yet, they haven't responded.
Once a track is playing, I get a text desricption of the title and album. Help!!!!
 
nevans said:
I have just installed the dice system in my 2004 Z4. All is well, but I cannot browse Albums or playlists; it just displays 'ALBUM' or 'PLAYLIST'. I've tried contacting Dice electronics, but as yet, they haven't responded.
Once a track is playing, I get a text desricption of the title and album. Help!!!!
Sounds familiar. I've got a 2006 Z4, no DSP, and the DICE Silverline. Pretty much the only thing that does work is the text display (well the steering wheel controls also work). Not able to change the album, artist nor playlist, have to press the power button 2 - 4 times to turn off the head unit, the head unit display also reads "TEL" (as in TELEPHONE maybe) although I have no phone kit installed. DICE refused to help me in any way since they don't ship to Finland (what a nice excuse). Luckily EAS have offered a refund, but of course it means I'll have to send my DICE unit back, and I doubt they'll refund postage & packaging costs. With that kind of customer support, I'll never buy anything from DICE again.
 
Try going to disc 6 (it might be disc 5, can't remember off the top of my head) and then click to track 6. That usually resets the unit and then you can go to disc 2 to flip through your playlists. You aren't going to see the name of the playlist though. Tom at eas is a great help. You can probably search bimmerforums for dice threads. I know there is like a 26 page thread on it on one of the forums.
 
I think it was in bimmerfest. I contributed to far too many pages on there when I was getting it up and working with my wife's X3 and then once again with the Z4.
 
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