Depreciation!

Kettleboy said:
Last sept/oct 28i 2nd handers were like hens teeth, supply and demand and all that, yes 20i = big discounts...

Yeh I know what you mean. I bought the same time as you and I wanted the 28i but got over £13k off the list price on mine and thought I could remap if I needed more poke.
 
I've just got £9.2k off new 28i paying cash no finance. Few months examples on approved used are going for pretty much the same, of course px would be less.... I'm not expecting to be able to cash out at a profit in 6 months but I'm not going to lose that much in first year. That being said providing I like the car I'll keep it for a while, my current car I've had 9 years.....
 
24 month pcp, small deposit, backed by a car allowance = very reasonable cost of ownership of a lovely new Roadster every couple of years. Or year if I feel fruity and the Dealer is playing nicely!

Very sorry you took such a massive beating, it's not pleasant!
 
lux good said:
Kettleboy said:
Last sept/oct 28i 2nd handers were like hens teeth, supply and demand and all that, yes 20i = big discounts...

Yeh I know what you mean. I bought the same time as you and I wanted the 28i but got over £13k off the list price on mine and thought I could remap if I needed more poke.

Just under £20k brand new? Shame I missed that deal - sounds ideal.
 
Depends what you want at the end of the day, I enjoy a brand spanking new motor, new or secondhand you will lose, you don't buy for investment :roll: Its a great feeling seeing your new car delivered, sat in the showroom gleaming waiting for you, no-one else has thrashed it, kerbed it, farted or picked their nose it and that new car smell, lovely. For those that grumble that they spend 50k and there motor is worth peanuts after 3 years, no-one forced you to buy new, we all know cars plummit in value :) I look at it as a little treat for hard work in life. No different than wasting money on booze, fags, cruises or other luxuries in life.

Tim.
 
I have noticed the residuals of new BMWs is a little on the harsh side. Primarily because the kind of people who buy them love to have the latest thing. The residuals on the Audi's are pretty good. I haven't given an Audi owner a p/x value they have been dissapointed with/below expectations (unless they've kept it like a shed) for quite some time...

New cars turn out very good on PCP agreements if you keep a car for 3-4 years then swap out. But as a sales exec, I have always bought roughly 4 yr old used cars outright/using funding offers with early withdrawal benefits. Don't write off used car finance - even though the rates may be a little high, you can get incentives like service plans because the dealerships are struggling to match the new car offers - just don't expect a great deal for "cash" because that is a load of s*** that webuyanycar etc. keep pushing so they can pinch your car cheap.

One thing I don't like though is the culture of "nobody pays list". This is a lie - it all depends on their stock flow and how many they have to shift. I will do you a cracking deal on a New A6 we have in stock - but you'll be lucky to get squat-diddly off a Q5.

...yours truly from the ultimate insider :wink:
 
I am insured with Classicline as they say its a future classic. Hopefully if I keep it 100 years it will be worth more than what I paid for it :?
 
IK. said:
lux good said:
Kettleboy said:
Last sept/oct 28i 2nd handers were like hens teeth, supply and demand and all that, yes 20i = big discounts...

Yeh I know what you mean. I bought the same time as you and I wanted the 28i but got over £13k off the list price on mine and thought I could remap if I needed more poke.

Just under £20k brand new? Shame I missed that deal - sounds ideal.

How did you work that out, do you know my list of extras!!?? :P
Was a bit more than that, and it was a BMW accountants car so i'm kind of a second owner......bothered!! :|
 
Quadracer said:
I am insured with Classicline as they say its a future classic. Hopefully if I keep it 100 years it will be worth more than what I paid for it :?

History would dictate that is correct! Even though fuel will probs have run out and we'll be floating around in little spaceships...
 
TitanTim said:
If you have the money buy new, you can beat that new car feel, if you don't then secondhand :)

Then you have the dilema,

Do you buy a new lower spec car ie small engine /no iDrive etc - Or do you go for a year old full fat job for the same price?
 
I believe buying a car like a Zed is not necessary. If I was worried about running costs and depreciation I wouldn't by such a car. Having a nice car and modding it is a hobby for me. All hobbies cost money. To work out how much that hobby is costing would be complicated. You could work out the depreciation and running costs of your Zed then minus what it would of cost to be practical and buy a small family hatch. You would then know how much extra it has cost. I'm not that bothered but if someone wants to work it out I'd be interested. Oh and I don't drink so you can take a bit off for that too :)
 
I bought my z4 coupe just over 4 years old....it had done 24k, bought it for >£25k less then the original owner paid (i have the receipt)

Given the price of fuel over last 5 years ~£1.15p/litre, mpg average 32 (optimistic)



Maths:

24,000 miles / 32mpg = 750 gallons
750 gallons x 4.55 = 3400 litres = ~£4000 in fuel alone

In summary just in fuel and depreciation previous owner lost ~ £30,000/ 24000 miles = £1.25/mile. Thats not including tax, insurance, servicing.....
 
mine isnt depreciating as i dont consider myself as owning it. i see my pcp deal as a long term rental and once its over, i can buy the car for a reduced price if i wish...... i have a 3 year pcp plan but may return it after 2 years and buy something else. but in the meantime, the car has cost me a £500 deposit and £400 per month..... so 10k over 2 years. not a bad rental price for a brand new car worth 36k and i can accept losing that as its relatively worry free and cost free motoring with no unexpected bills
 
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