ZermattV said:no vote for Brake Ducts are cooler than fog lights?
er . . . no (what's a brake duct anyway?)
ZermattV said:no vote for Brake Ducts are cooler than fog lights?
Marlon said:ZermattV said:no vote for Brake Ducts are cooler than fog lights?
er . . . no (what's a brake duct anyway?)
ZermattV said:no vote for Brake Ducts are cooler than fog lights?

Smartbear said:Marlon said:ZermattV said:no vote for Brake Ducts are cooler than fog lights?
er . . . no (what's a brake duct anyway?)
The M cars have plastic tubes piping air to the front brakes (and making them heavier)![]()
Rob
GedS said:I'm planning on converting my fogs to DRL's as I never use them. I am still trying to find a way to bypass the "faulty light Warning" though. If anyone has any suggestions.......
Scooba_Steve said:GedS said:I'm planning on converting my fogs to DRL's as I never use them. I am still trying to find a way to bypass the "faulty light Warning" though. If anyone has any suggestions.......
My fogs are not monitored. Unplug one of yours and check.
Number5 said:Scoba Steve's are not illegal, as they are no different from the DRL's now fitted on new Mini's. I have just fitted similar to my daughters black mini as I wasn't comfortable with her having a black car and forgetting to out her lights on come dusk, having recently passed her test.
The difference between DRL's and fog lights 'apparently' is that DRL's do not project a beam forward of the vehicle and therefore will not blind/dazzle others in good visibility, whereas Fog lights can do. I believe it is on this basis that the Police can stop you for using Fogs during the day, or in good visibility.
I do sometimes use the fog/driving lights early on Sunday Mornings if I am leading a group of Zeds on a 'progressive' run as I want to make sure I am seen approaching any junctions, etc. It is also permitted for a number of vehicles in a convoy to use lights to indicate that they are travelling together.
GedS said:Scooba_Steve said:GedS said:I'm planning on converting my fogs to DRL's as I never use them. I am still trying to find a way to bypass the "faulty light Warning" though. If anyone has any suggestions.......
My fogs are not monitored. Unplug one of yours and check.
Hmmmm interesting. are you on the facelift or pre facelift?
Ducklakeview said:Some of these DRL's however are excessively bright, even at night, and as they have no predefined beam, can be extremely dazzling.Mike
Number5 said:Ducklakeview said:Some of these DRL's however are excessively bright, even at night, and as they have no predefined beam, can be extremely dazzling.Mike
You will find that factory fitted DRL's reduce brightness whenever the headlights are turned on. Have you ever noticed an Audi indicating ? The DRL nearest the indicator goes off, so as not to disguise the turn signal.
Retro-fit DRL's do not do this as they usually just have one permanent feed and not a switched feed sensor.
Number5 said:My daughter (who passed her test yesterday) has just driven off up the road in a black car at 10:30 pm without putting her lights on - just as predicted !![]()
- Thank God I fitted DRLs before we gave her the car. :wink:
I Managed to phone her and tell her, but those two minutes could have been disaterous.
Ducklakeview said:Number5 said:Ducklakeview said:Some of these DRL's however are excessively bright, even at night, and as they have no predefined beam, can be extremely dazzling.Mike
You will find that factory fitted DRL's reduce brightness whenever the headlights are turned on. Have you ever noticed an Audi indicating ? The DRL nearest the indicator goes off, so as not to disguise the turn signal.
Retro-fit DRL's do not do this as they usually just have one permanent feed and not a switched feed sensor.
Yes, they are ALL supposed to do that, but only when the indicator is combined in the same housing, so that it can be seen, however I've seen a lot of Vauxhalls and Nissans where this does not happen.
Mike
:x . For some reason it seems that NZ drivers have been mired in a technological backwater for so long that when they get a vehicle with the bonus of fog lights it is seen as absolutely obligatory to drive with them at night - especially if it is an SUV where the fog lights are perfectly in line with your rear view mirror (thank god for auto dimming mirrors...).