Corona virus means my coupe might go..😭

[Danz4coupe]

Being a London cabbie and London officially being pretty much closed to everyone who uses cabs means my coupe may have to be sold. Really dont want to but bills need paying and kids have to eat... so pissed off its unreal.

 

[Lynchy]

Really, that's sad to hear

 

[idej_z4]

That such a shame...its a real beauty! Must be hard in London atm. Fingers crossed things get better soon.

 

[buzyg]

That's a sobering reality of where we are headed the next several months. Hope things work out in the long run for us all.

 

[IRD]

My heart goes out to people who find themselves in this sort of position. Fingers crossed that things improve and you don’t have to sell your pride and joy.

 

[IRD]

My heart goes out to people who find themselves in this sort of position. Fingers crossed that things improve and you don’t have to sell your pride and joy.

 

[IRD]

Whoops! Thought it hadn’t gone so ended up posting twice.

 

[Danz4coupe]

I know people are dying so having to get rid of my weekend toy is not such a big thing in the grand scheme....but still
Gonna see how the next few weeks go then make a decision I think.

 

[Wyldie85]

That’s awful and by having such a lovely coupe, I’d be very upset at that prospect. :|

 

[mr wilks]

As reality of the situation hits home is it just me that has a niggling concern that the UK & the rest of the world has pressed the panic button way to hard way to soon :?
I accept people are dying from the disease & that is obviously tragic but triggering complete & utter economic meltdown & talk of £350billion bail outs will surely effect way more people for a far longer duration?
It's a mess & feels like I'm in a Hollywood disaster movie

 

[idej_z4]

As reality of the situation hits home is it just me that has a niggling concern that the UK & the rest of the world has pressed the panic button way to hard way to soon :?
I accept people are dying from the disease & that is obviously tragic but triggering complete & utter economic meltdown & talk of £350billion bail outs will surely effect way more people for a far longer duration?
It's a mess & feels like I'm in a Hollywood disaster movie

I think that's the idea though Andy. Press it early so we don't have as many deaths (up to 250k I believe if we do nothing).

 

[Thrustyjust]

As reality of the situation hits home is it just me that has a niggling concern that the UK & the rest of the world has pressed the panic button way to hard way to soon :?
I accept people are dying from the disease & that is obviously tragic but triggering complete & utter economic meltdown & talk of £350billion bail outs will surely effect way more people for a far longer duration?
It's a mess & feels like I'm in a Hollywood disaster movie

Its a situation where I have considered selling too, but a/ it would be worth pish b/ who wants to buy a car now ? c/ Trying not to jump the gun .
Discussions with the current wife on what we can do with potentially no wages for 3 months , is a drastic but needed conversation. My company that I work for is an air conditioning buisiness. We cant go to places of work, as they wont be open. We will be open, but for the whole staff in a small company, could potentially be very bleak. We have some savings, but not a huge amount that covers the bills for 3 months currently, let alone food. We are the lucky ones , in having some savings, as a huge amount of people live hand to mouth. Its such a dire situation . That also includes isolation for my 76yr old mother who lives 40 miles away.

 

[MKZ4000]

I'm in the market for a new M roadster and came very close to purchasing one.

In the current climate, I'm so glad I didn't due to the uncertainty of money coming in.

Luckily the Gov has promised mortgage holidays for those severely effected.

If you have plenty of money, I can see some bargains coming up where people are desperate for money.

Hopefully we can all weather the storm

 

[mr wilks]

As reality of the situation hits home is it just me that has a niggling concern that the UK & the rest of the world has pressed the panic button way to hard way to soon :?
I accept people are dying from the disease & that is obviously tragic but triggering complete & utter economic meltdown & talk of £350billion bail outs will surely effect way more people for a far longer duration?
It's a mess & feels like I'm in a Hollywood disaster movie

I think that's the idea though Andy. Press it early so we don't have as many deaths (up to 250k I believe if we do nothing).

Like everything else though Dan it feels like the blind leading the blind throwing out stop gap tactics without actually doing the basics to combat the spread .
I was on a cross channel ferry yesterday evening from Dieppe & was hard not to snigger when the situation was highlighted with a announcement that due to CV19 large areas of the ferry were out of bounds in order to be able to clean the smaller areas in between crossings , ok so what did that mean ? All passengers were crammed into the bar & cafe areas with other lounges & sleep areas closed off which meant a collective of around 400 people spent the 4 hrs in enclosed space as opposed to being more spread out :wink:

These two clips of how UK & China tackled the commute problem on trains couldn't be more different & frankly its a bit embarrassing how inept the west is acting
PIC from last night on underground with not a mask in sight


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8123413/Workers-stand-LOT-closer-two-metres-apart-crammed-tube.html


compared to China at its height of infections

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/25/c_138733616.htm

 

[Chris_D]

As reality of the situation hits home is it just me that has a niggling concern that the UK & the rest of the world has pressed the panic button way to hard way to soon :?
I accept people are dying from the disease & that is obviously tragic but triggering complete & utter economic meltdown & talk of £350billion bail outs will surely effect way more people for a far longer duration?
It's a mess & feels like I'm in a Hollywood disaster movie

I think that's the idea though Andy. Press it early so we don't have as many deaths (up to 250k I believe if we do nothing).

Like everything else though Dan it feels like the blind leading the blind throwing out stop gap tactics without actually doing the basics to combat the spread .
I was on a cross channel ferry yesterday evening from Dieppe & was hard not to snigger when the situation was highlighted with a announcement that due to CV19 large areas of the ferry were out of bounds in order to be able to clean the smaller areas in between crossings , ok so what did that mean ? All passengers were crammed into the bar & cafe areas with other lounges & sleep areas closed off which meant a collective of around 400 people spent the 4 hrs in enclosed space as opposed to being more spread out :wink:

These two clips of how UK & China tackled the commute problem on trains couldn't be more different & frankly its a bit embarrassing how inept the west is acting
PIC from last night on underground with not a mask in sight


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8123413/Workers-stand-LOT-closer-two-metres-apart-crammed-tube.html


compared to China at its height of infections

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/25/c_138733616.htm

Sorry, but that’s not a fair or accurate comparison. One photo shows a picture of a packed tube train, the other is on an overland train concourse.

Frankly, I’m surprised the LU has been allowed to remain operating. Being in that environment, i.e. breathing in many-times-over re-circulated air in an enclosed environment deep underground is a prime catalyst for the spread of any virus.
I’d also question how effective the Chinese screening method is as symptoms from carriers can not be immediately detected due to the long incubation period. You would only be able to detect the people who are in full-swing of any infection.

Having lived in London 6 years and after falling ill repeatedly I decided to stop taking the tube as part of my commute to work, electing instead to break my overland-underground journey from Goodmayes to Liverpool St at Stratford and bike it the rest of the way. It worked. No more illnesses and sick days. That complete improvement and change in my health also made me realise how toxic a city environment is and influenced my move away from London altogether.
Sorry Londoners, but the city is just a truly filthy place!
:exitright:

 

[idej_z4]

As reality of the situation hits home is it just me that has a niggling concern that the UK & the rest of the world has pressed the panic button way to hard way to soon :?
I accept people are dying from the disease & that is obviously tragic but triggering complete & utter economic meltdown & talk of £350billion bail outs will surely effect way more people for a far longer duration?
It's a mess & feels like I'm in a Hollywood disaster movie

I think that's the idea though Andy. Press it early so we don't have as many deaths (up to 250k I believe if we do nothing).

Like everything else though Dan it feels like the blind leading the blind throwing out stop gap tactics without actually doing the basics to combat the spread .
I was on a cross channel ferry yesterday evening from Dieppe & was hard not to snigger when the situation was highlighted with a announcement that due to CV19 large areas of the ferry were out of bounds in order to be able to clean the smaller areas in between crossings , ok so what did that mean ? All passengers were crammed into the bar & cafe areas with other lounges & sleep areas closed off which meant a collective of around 400 people spent the 4 hrs in enclosed space as opposed to being more spread out :wink:

These two clips of how UK & China tackled the commute problem on trains couldn't be more different & frankly its a bit embarrassing how inept the west is acting
PIC from last night on underground with not a mask in sight


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8123413/Workers-stand-LOT-closer-two-metres-apart-crammed-tube.html


compared to China at its height of infections

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/25/c_138733616.htm

The results from China atm (numbers of new cases are dropping) suggest the way they dealt with it returns results. That said, it has been proven that a mask makes little to no difference...although this has to win the prize for most idiotic attempt to self-isolate


Interesting to see the Daily Mail as the source of your first pic...every image I saw on the BBC, Channel 4, Sky and the Independent showed empty tubes and platforms?

In China, due to the breakout happening there, took the option of shutting down the epicentre of the virus thus containing it and helping the rest of China to prepare properly and ensuring no huge spike in the number of cases. This enables the healthcare system to be able to cope. Not sure how the UK could do that when it has spread all over the country?

The answer is we probably should have done something earlier...but that would have meant slowing down the money before everyone else and we all know what really matters to Boris.

 

[mr wilks]

Interesting point Dan RE " not sure how the UK could do that when it has spread all over the country " perhaps they should have spent some of the £330billion in preparation ?
I don't just read the DM :wink: driving home last night i listened to R4 & the way the Chinese tackled it seemed to gain praise from all who were in the discussion which can't be said on how the UK is tackling it .
A Dr just interviewed on R5Live painted a grim but no doubt true picture speaking on behalf of his co workers they all believe they are poorly prepared with virtually no ppe gear available to Drs , nurses or porters & they now see themselves as the key distributors of the virus
His actual words to sum it up were pretty damming bearing in mind the outbreak was known some time back
" the government could clearly see the iceberg looming at least two months ago yet carried on at full speed until the inevitable happened , the NHS are simply the band playing on deck "

 

[idej_z4]

Interesting point Dan RE " not sure how the UK could do that when it has spread all over the country " perhaps they should have spent some of the £330billion in preparation ?
I don't just read the DM :wink: driving home last night i listened to R4 & the way the Chinese tackled it seemed to gain praise from all who were in the discussion which can't be said on how the UK is tackling it .
A Dr just interviewed on R5Live painted a grim but no doubt true picture speaking on behalf of his co workers they all believe they are poorly prepared with virtually no ppe gear available to Drs , nurses or porters & they now see themselves as the key distributors of the virus
His actual words to sum it up were pretty damming bearing in mind the outbreak was known some time back
" the government could clearly see the iceberg looming at least two months ago yet carried on at full speed until the inevitable happened , the NHS are simply the band playing on deck "

Tottaly agree Andy. I think I more or less said that above...we should have done something sooner.

BTW, wasn't saying you're a DM reader (although we all love a bit of non-fiction from time to time :wink, it was just interesting that it was the source of the image.

 

[Sludgepump]

Interesting discussion!
I was supposed to be going on holiday to Moscow and St Petersberg in a couple of weeks but the travel operator has had to cancel. They've offered vouchers that would enable me to take a holiday with them when this has all blown over (that's if they are still in business by then)
For me it's just a holiday but for the travel company employees it's much more serious. They could lose their jobs.
I feel really sorry for those who might have to sell their cars in order to pay the bills -especially if second-hand car prices go through the floor.
There must be a lot of people out their who fear for their jobs at the moment

 

[Zeld4]

I think that's the idea though Andy. Press it early so we don't have as many deaths (up to 250k I believe if we do nothing).

Like everything else though Dan it feels like the blind leading the blind throwing out stop gap tactics without actually doing the basics to combat the spread .
I was on a cross channel ferry yesterday evening from Dieppe & was hard not to snigger when the situation was highlighted with a announcement that due to CV19 large areas of the ferry were out of bounds in order to be able to clean the smaller areas in between crossings , ok so what did that mean ? All passengers were crammed into the bar & cafe areas with other lounges & sleep areas closed off which meant a collective of around 400 people spent the 4 hrs in enclosed space as opposed to being more spread out :wink:

These two clips of how UK & China tackled the commute problem on trains couldn't be more different & frankly its a bit embarrassing how inept the west is acting
PIC from last night on underground with not a mask in sight


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8123413/Workers-stand-LOT-closer-two-metres-apart-crammed-tube.html


compared to China at its height of infections

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/25/c_138733616.htm

The results from China atm (numbers of new cases are dropping) suggest the way they dealt with it returns results. That said, it has been proven that a mask makes little to no difference...although this has to win the prize for most idiotic attempt to self-isolate
Screenshot 2020-03-18 at 10.05.28.png

Interesting to see the Daily Mail as the source of your first pic...every image I saw on the BBC, Channel 4, Sky and the Independent showed empty tubes and platforms?

In China, due to the breakout happening there, took the option of shutting down the epicentre of the virus thus containing it and helping the rest of China to prepare properly and ensuring no huge spike in the number of cases. This enables the healthcare system to be able to cope. Not sure how the UK could do that when it has spread all over the country?

The answer is we probably should have done something earlier...but that would have meant slowing down the money before everyone else and we all know what really matters to Boris.

Unfortunately China had the chance to Isolate the virus long before they did. The doctor who originally discovered the virus tried to alert other doctors to what was happened but was threatened by the police for spreading panic and lies. So they didn’t shut down the epicentre until it was far too late.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-asia-china-51364382