Community Speed Watch
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I'm not sure about this "Community Speed Watch", i remenber being at my parents house when somebody came around to ask for our support. I said I wouldn't give my support for a bunch of untrained civi's standing on a corner pointing speed guns at cars. If they want cars to slow dowm, they should put up more digital speed signs etc..
No disrespect for anybody who is doing it but - there must be better things to do on an evening/day. Leave it to the Pro's.
No disrespect for anybody who is doing it but - there must be better things to do on an evening/day. Leave it to the Pro's.
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mirvine11 said:
I think 'Reverend' is insinuating he's a traffic cop so he's the one with loads of penalty points to give away not the community speed watch types.
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Reverend said:
Fair point.
I object to being checked by the blue rinse brigade. Invasion of my privacy as far as I am concerned, would they like it if I checked their recycling or clocked every time they leave the house and they return with a notice board?
I loath this "shopping to authorities" bit, that is like a communist state.
Won't be long before some of them will get hit on the head by a truck driver or so who has to do an emergency stop because a car in front slows from 30 to 10 mph on seeing the gun.
I loath this "shopping to authorities" bit, that is like a communist state.
Won't be long before some of them will get hit on the head by a truck driver or so who has to do an emergency stop because a car in front slows from 30 to 10 mph on seeing the gun.
Interesting - I can't say I like the idea of these folks pointing speed guns at motorists, but then again they are in their mind protecting the community and I have no problem respecting speed limits in villages and folks homes. Keep my right foot for the open road.
I'd probably just park up close by in their target zone to make and take some phone calls, or just pull up and ask them for directions 'as I'm in a real hurry' then roar off....lol
BTW these flashing road signs are interesting from 2 points, according to some research I saw :
1) They have an effect for a maximum of 6 weeks on a road and people tehn become immune so they shoudl be moved on a regular basis
2) Within 250m of passing them most drivers are going faster than they were before the sign as they accelerate back up to 'recover'
I'd probably just park up close by in their target zone to make and take some phone calls, or just pull up and ask them for directions 'as I'm in a real hurry' then roar off....lol
BTW these flashing road signs are interesting from 2 points, according to some research I saw :
1) They have an effect for a maximum of 6 weeks on a road and people tehn become immune so they shoudl be moved on a regular basis
2) Within 250m of passing them most drivers are going faster than they were before the sign as they accelerate back up to 'recover'
Reverend said:
This what worries me, if i drive past roof down loud music and they do not like it do i get reported, though i have not broke any law :x
There are ways and means of handling issues in your village. Old people with speed guns winds most people up and i am disgusted to the point i want to invesitage it further that they can get my address. I have no issue with an offically trained person taking such action and having access to my details the police are trained and security checked, how do i know these community people are not reporting me because they do not like the look or noise of my car or me.
Perhaps people like Reverend, if he is a traffic cop should support these guys officially by having a larger presence in the area or people in the council should be listening to their concerns if there is a serious big issue in that area. There are limits on police time and council money, but sometimes it seem to be spent in the wrong area. Some decent speed limit signage - IE you are about to enter a residental area (and around here you can go from a 60 mph limit to a residental area of half a dozen houses without even realsing it if you do not know the area) would just make people think, it is not going to stop everyone, but most half decent drivers a decent warning sign will make them think.
I would support anyone trying to do it throught the proper channels as i did with Bardon road in Coalville (though i would not support a speed camera), we needed something ( i do not live on this road, but close to it and have seen fatal accidents on this road) i still do not think there is enough on this road, mainly because we have a quarry with lots of large slow moving vehicles - there needs to be warning signs to alert people to the possibility of coming up on these slow lorries. It is not about speed but making people aware of the possible dangers.
I am obessed about sticking to the limit in residental areas and the only time i have ever got points, is driving at the limit of 60mpg i come around a corner (on an unfamilar road) and hit a 30mpg - there where no warning signs i was about to enter a 30mpg, as i have seen it i slowed down, but whoops unless i slammed on the breaks it was to late the speed camera caught me, it could have only been 50yards from the change in speed limit and the corner going downhill, nearest property a futher 50 yards on (I was in my crappy people carrier at the time, not the M, would have probably been able to brake hard enough in the M). They must make a fortune, surely it would have been cheaper to post warning signs rather than install a speed camera, but then they would not get the revenue from genuine unsuspecting drivers. I think speed cameras can do good, but placings them like this again just winds people up.
The whole speed limits, signage and driver training in the UK stink. :thumbsdown:
A little bit off track, but several years I was pulled over just outside Guilford by a Bike Copper and asked a few questions about the bike I was on, as it was only 3 days old at the time and did'nt show on his computer, however he said something to me which I have always tried to stick to regardless of what I'm riding / driving ever since and that was I don't care what you do in the national speed limit bits but in a 30 stick to 30 I have lost count of the number of times I have been overtaken doing 30 in a 30 zone only to then re-overtake the car when the speed limit goes national again. My licience is currently clean and has been ever since these words of advice.
I also remember reading years ago about a village that got a temporary speed camera installed due to the large amounts of speeding traffic through it, only to find the majority of the speeders lived in the village and were not the passing traffic they all thought, it did'nt last that long after that.
The problem is not the wrinkly's or the speed limits (some of the time) but inappropriate speed and bad driving none of which is cured by camera's, it's more (heaven forbid) Traffic Police and better training, how many people commenting live in rural areas (I know the Ashby / Bardon area is, I used to live in Hinckley and went that way'ish to pick up the A50) and how many live in built up areas where you don't the noise associated with speeding traffic to know the impact it has on the quality life (accepting that there is other noise with living in town).
Just my 2 pennies worth of rambling.
I also remember reading years ago about a village that got a temporary speed camera installed due to the large amounts of speeding traffic through it, only to find the majority of the speeders lived in the village and were not the passing traffic they all thought, it did'nt last that long after that.
The problem is not the wrinkly's or the speed limits (some of the time) but inappropriate speed and bad driving none of which is cured by camera's, it's more (heaven forbid) Traffic Police and better training, how many people commenting live in rural areas (I know the Ashby / Bardon area is, I used to live in Hinckley and went that way'ish to pick up the A50) and how many live in built up areas where you don't the noise associated with speeding traffic to know the impact it has on the quality life (accepting that there is other noise with living in town).
Just my 2 pennies worth of rambling.
If the police are concerened, they should NOT leave their job to citizens. Our town has several of these mobile displays they send out to trouble spots. I must admit, they do make me more aware of my speed when I see them and none of the "blu rinse brigade" :lol: need be involved with traffic enforcement. I can't imagine they could enforce a penalty based on the word of an elderly lady sipping tea anyway. Too much room for error in my opinion. Here is a story that shows an effective approach. click here
Agree 100%.rabman5 said:
Hmmm, just what we need - more of these vigilante fools trying to police the roads themselves, a bit like the chumps I come across all the time who do everything they can to ensure you can't overtake them, and when you do manage to get past them (despite them doing 10 to 15 mph less than the limit) they take offence and flash like a deranged idiot.
Mmmm....what really bugs me is when you sit patiently behind someone in the fast lane, nothin in the middle lane so they could pull over, they stay there for ever then grudgingly (and usually slowly ) pull over...
Then they put the foot down and you think if you had done that in the first place ....
Then they put the foot down and you think if you had done that in the first place ....
rabman5 said:If the police are concerened, they should NOT leave their job to citizens. Our town has several of these mobile displays they send out to trouble spots. I must admit, they do make me more aware of my speed when I see them and none of the "blu rinse brigade" :lol: need be involved with traffic enforcement. I can't imagine they could enforce a penalty based on the word of an elderly lady sipping tea anyway. Too much room for error in my opinion. Here is a story that shows an effective approach. click here
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Give them something to look at!!
A few weeks back Me, my sister and my Mum were on the way to Leeds in my Mum's 630, when we noticed a policeman parked up on his bike with a mobile speed camera, like 10 yards from the speed camera at the side of the road! Now we don't take kindly to any speed camera at all let alone mobile one's, so my Mum turned the music up full blast, wound all the windows down, started beeping her horn at him, and then guess what i did...well i had a dress on that had press stud buttons all the way down, so i ripped the dress open and hung out of the window with my erm things hanging out...he was so shocked that he wouldn't have even been able to take a picture
A few weeks back Me, my sister and my Mum were on the way to Leeds in my Mum's 630, when we noticed a policeman parked up on his bike with a mobile speed camera, like 10 yards from the speed camera at the side of the road! Now we don't take kindly to any speed camera at all let alone mobile one's, so my Mum turned the music up full blast, wound all the windows down, started beeping her horn at him, and then guess what i did...well i had a dress on that had press stud buttons all the way down, so i ripped the dress open and hung out of the window with my erm things hanging out...he was so shocked that he wouldn't have even been able to take a picture
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Lucy said:Give them something to look at!!
A few weeks back Me, my sister and my Mum were on the way to Leeds in my Mum's 630, when we noticed a policeman parked up on his bike with a mobile speed camera, like 10 yards from the speed camera at the side of the road! Now we don't take kindly to any speed camera at all let alone mobile one's, so my Mum turned the music up full blast, wound all the windows down, started beeping her horn at him, and then guess what i did...well i had a dress on that had press stud buttons all the way down, so i ripped the dress open and hung out of the window with my erm things hanging out...he was so shocked that he wouldn't have even been able to take a picture
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Lucy said:Give them something to look at!!
A few weeks back Me, my sister and my Mum were on the way to Leeds in my Mum's 630, when we noticed a policeman parked up on his bike with a mobile speed camera, like 10 yards from the speed camera at the side of the road! Now we don't take kindly to any speed camera at all let alone mobile one's, so my Mum turned the music up full blast, wound all the windows down, started beeping her horn at him, and then guess what i did...well i had a dress on that had press stud buttons all the way down, so i ripped the dress open and hung out of the window with my erm things hanging out...he was so shocked that he wouldn't have even been able to take a picture
Where can you buy speed cameras?
My 2 cents (hey i'll be there soon and experiencing this) is that I agree with a few others, if these people are trained, understand the degree of error/calibration in relation to the angle of your car and all that other crap that goes into the accuracy of the beam, and the unit is calibrated regularly - then I have no problem with a citizen doing this.
My complex that I live in now tried to do that, we have roaming security (they suck btw) and for a while they carried radar guns. From what I hear the HOA (people in charge) kept having people not pay the fines, due to calibration/training issues.
My complex that I live in now tried to do that, we have roaming security (they suck btw) and for a while they carried radar guns. From what I hear the HOA (people in charge) kept having people not pay the fines, due to calibration/training issues.
I hate speed cameras on motorways as I think they're just a cash cow. But I realise the need for them around schools and in dangerous areas, it's all well and good if you go to fast and kill yourself but what if you ran over a kid or crashed into an old banger and tore it in half killing all the passengers? - there are places to drive fast and there are places todrive sensibly. I drive really slow down my road and my neighbourhood - then as soon as I hit the country lanes I punch the accelerator...