Caught doing 95 in a 70...
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johnnymarrsbarres
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the cueball said:the fines are now 'means tested' in Scotland anyway.... so the more you earn the more you get fined...
So, scumbag, sit at home all watching Jermey Kyle gets caught and will get a £20 fine, but if you are honest, hard working and out doing a shift, you could get fined £100/200/300 etc...
Very fair eh....
of course, they have no legal right to check up on what you out on the form, so you *could* decide what you are going to show...
What utter nonsense.
As others have mentioned, the punishment should be reflective of the relative means the person has to pay it [if such punishment is a fine]. Fortunately to me [and I'm guessing most here] a £60 wouldn't hurt that much, but to some people that could mean not being able to pay the gas bill that month.
This is also why income tax is relative, and why raising VAT hits poorest people harder. No offence but maybe put down the Daily Mail and pick up 'Economics for Dummies' instead.
johnnymarrsbarres said:the cueball said:the fines are now 'means tested' in Scotland anyway.... so the more you earn the more you get fined...
So, scumbag, sit at home all watching Jermey Kyle gets caught and will get a £20 fine, but if you are honest, hard working and out doing a shift, you could get fined £100/200/300 etc...
Very fair eh....
of course, they have no legal right to check up on what you out on the form, so you *could* decide what you are going to show...
What utter nonsense.
As others have mentioned, the punishment should be reflective of the relative means the person has to pay it [if such punishment is a fine]. Fortunately to me [and I'm guessing most here] a £60 wouldn't hurt that much, but to some people that could mean not being able to pay the gas bill that month.
This is also why income tax is relative, and why raising VAT hits poorest people harder. No offence but maybe put down the Daily Mail and pick up 'Economics for Dummies' instead.
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you'll be fine, max 3 points at worse ... try if they allow you to do the Speed Awareness Course ..
instant ban is when you do double the speed limit or go more than 100 mph ...
few of my mates on bikes have quite an experience of the whole process, including ban
one of them got provoked by unmarked car tailgating him, he zoomed of at 160 and then they blocked the whole m25 off.
instant ban is when you do double the speed limit or go more than 100 mph ...
few of my mates on bikes have quite an experience of the whole process, including ban
one of them got provoked by unmarked car tailgating him, he zoomed of at 160 and then they blocked the whole m25 off.
Returning home on the M1 a couple of weeks ago I cruised passed an unmarked (Black Mitsubishi lancer) at about 80-85mph. He speeded up and started to tailgate me very close. Luckily he was close enough to see the LED come on on my onboard camera and sharp backed off 
He didn't bother me after that.
He didn't bother me after that.
lesson being 94 is okay?
Finisterre said:
lesson being dont launch the car unless the tarmac permits.
I've had cars a lot quicker than this one. I have held my licence for over 18 years and have had a clean record up until now... Dont get me wrong, I like to drive a car how its been meant to be driven. Public roads are not the place to do this though.
As for the penalties... I am paying 40% income tax and I totally agree with means tested fines. if a driving offence is going to financially cripple you, obey the law, simple as.
StevenH72 said:
Bullshit, you can't impose a higher fine to someone that has done well in their life to someone who hasn't for committing exactly the same crime. The punishment should be the same wether the person is rich or poor!
........by the way, the fuckers that can't afford a £60 fine because they are skint usually end up paying £1 a week for the first two weeks then f**k all afterwards!! How's that right?
I think the point is that a £60 fine is not the same for everyone. When I was caught speeding my greatest concern was that I might have to go to court and potentially face a dangerous driving charge for exceeding 100mph. When it became apparent that I was going to get away with just points and a fine, I couldn't have cared less about the £60! I was annoyed with myself that I would no longer have a clean licence and I was annoyed that my insurance company would make an even larger profit from my premium, but the fine itself was of little consequence. However, I would have happily paid a fine a great many times larger if I could have kept my clean licence. If I had been scraping by supporting a family with a low paid job, the fine likely would have been my principal concern.
Were the fine the equivalent of ten hours' wages it would have hurt me much more and it would have brought my punishment into line with the punishment given to someone earning the UK minimum wage.
Were the fine the equivalent of ten hours' wages it would have hurt me much more and it would have brought my punishment into line with the punishment given to someone earning the UK minimum wage.
lux good said:
Completely agree with the extract above, but the "PUNISHMENT" of a £60 fine is a much larger punishment to a working class family than it is to Richie McRich, so it's not "the same".
What you're effectively advocating is for those earning higher salaries to avoid any punishment in terms of the fine.
mad4slalom
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whatn do you mean entrapment, , did they have a kin great magnet that pulled your car toward them, ffs we all speed and as we all know the times we get caught are a miniscule proportion of the number of times we speed, i am awaiting a ticket now as 99% sure a camera van got me last week 40 give or take a few mph in a thirty, yes its annoying but I had control of the gas pedal,short of an unmarked car pushing you from behind in the dark I fail to see how entrapment would be a factor in any speeding prosecution. someone else sid it ...Suck it up 
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:telloff:Can we drop this "working class" bollocks please. It belongs in the Victorian era so lets leave it there.
The vast majority of people in this country between 18 and 65 work for a living therefore we are all working class.
The vast majority of people in this country between 18 and 65 work for a living therefore we are all working class.
StevenH72 said:
it's not about higher salaries though and it's not about being rich either...
honestly... do you and the other people that agree with this system actually understand what it means???????
