Careful out there boys and girls

Glad I'm not the only one who's needed a change of underwear today....


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We're all such children :D

I wiggled my way out of Brands today just for the hell of it. Then caught myself out on a roundabout later... Then poked it ever so slightly in a straight line down a hill and it wiggled again. I think my car has turned into Miley...

It was about 1 degree the last time - I'm actually quite glad, as I'll have 'taking care' front and centre of my mind when I leave at 5.30am next week.
 
Perhaps I should consider swapping my wheels over to winters for the X5 this week then.
 
Got some trips this week (Christmas dinners), so will drive it indeed :P

My new car dryer has arrived as well, so will give that a go when I wash the car later on then 8)
 
So this morning at 8.00am whilst gently sipping my earl grey tea I looked out of the window to see the z and mrs B's Audi A1 both looking like they had come from the freezer ! Must be losing my bottle as I get older - I took the Audi !!! Didn't fancy a Torvil and Dean trip into work !! From what you guys have said I made the right choice !
 
Took the bins out today and nearly stacked it with that.

Far too cold to bother going out with summer tyres on. :lol:
 
Not a problem in the car, but managed to get a knee down (to borrow a biker phrase) in the field walking the dog. Their tyres seem ok, but Dunlop Wellies are being eyed suspiciously.....
 
Talksthetorque said:
Not a problem in the car, but managed to get a knee down (to borrow a biker phrase) in the field walking the dog. Their tyres seem ok, but Dunlop Wellies are being eyed suspiciously.....
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:rofl: :rofl: can't wait to get a dog!! Next year hopefully.
 
Another victim here!
After I finally defrosted the Z4 this morning it was minus 2 - never thought I'd want heated seats but they were lovely this morning!
Still I hadn't really gone anywhere more than 5 miles for over a week so it needed some exercise and I knew I had a 60/70 mile round trip today.
Anyway orange light flashing on and off most of the day even in a straight line, and mine isn't an M! :roll:
If it stays like this I can see the daily driver getting more use, but now I have a 325Ti to replace the Mazda 323 that isn't such a hardship! :D
 
I'm guessing everyone here is under 30 and learnt to drive in cars with traction aids , I'm nearly 50 and if your cars loses traction in my world you say whoops there and continue on your way and don't give it a second thought .
Or if it's really bad go out and drift it on purpose :rofl:
 
Bit of tyre geekery from a research paper on Winter Vs Summer tyres on dry tarmac (winters will always massively outperform summers in mud ice and snow) obviously the exact tyre, car and road surface will affect things but basically,

Right down to 0 deg C summers still had more grip (disproving the 4-6 deg threshold theory that I'd always gone along with)

They were almost identical in the wet at all temps,

At real sub-zero temps the summers harden up and the winters outperformed them by 25 - 30 %

Winters had significantly less grip as temps rise above 0 deg C

Interestingly in sub-zero or wet conditions tyre tread contact surface temps only rise by about 2 deg C, so there is no significant warming effect (The rest of the tyre will warm and soften sidewalls).

(Unfortunately it's a pdf so cant post a link)
 
Paulwirral said:
I'm guessing everyone here is under 30 and learnt to drive in cars with traction aids , I'm nearly 50 and if your cars loses traction in my world you say whoops there and continue on your way and don't give it a second thought .
Or if it's really bad go out and drift it on purpose :rofl:
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I'm much much younger than you, but I subscribe to your philosophy wholeheartedly....right up to the moment of impact :P
 
Paulwirral said:
I'm guessing everyone here is under 30 and learnt to drive in cars with traction aids , I'm nearly 50 and if your cars loses traction in my world you say whoops there and continue on your way and don't give it a second thought .
Or if it's really bad go out and drift it on purpose :rofl:
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The Z4M is the first car I've had with traction control. My M5's didn't have it, and I never felt like it was going to snap without warning - although the longer wheelbase meant you'd get a bit of notice before it lost the back end.

The Z4M doesn't seem to give you anywhere near the amount of feedback, so you have to be waiting for/instigating the slide otherwise you have to have very fast reactions.
 
^^^ absolutely. It really snaps like a bugger, and for me has been when I've least expected it!!
 
Paulwirral said:
I'm guessing everyone here is under 30 and learnt to drive in cars with traction aids , I'm nearly 50 and if your cars loses traction in my world you say whoops there and continue on your way and don't give it a second thought .
Or if it's really bad go out and drift it on purpose :rofl:
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A sensible comment at last :thumbsup:

Not all of us on here are under 50 [or 60 :wink: ] but I suspect those who have a problem driving a Z4 at only +3 degrees C could be. :?

Try driving a 1986 E30 M3 on black ice :o - I did, and didn't break it :) Fun? Well it was interesting :thumbsup:

The yoooof of today have no idea. :poke:
 
I certainly don't have a problem driving it in the cold, and I am under 30 ... I merely don't want anybody binning their P+J by being caught out ;-)
 
The oldies of today will be dead soon so doesn't bother me :lol:

My case was more a lack of concentration than anything else.
 
Maybe us youngsters are trying harder??? Although I think there is merit to older owners having more experience of RWD. Most people under 40 I would think have mostly driven FWD cars. My first car was a pug 205 I mastered under steer in thst :rofl: almost got the hang of lift off over steer!! Before I killed it!! :headbang:

I think Toms post was more a warning to newer owners. The z4 with a short chassis do it dose not give a lot of warning when it brakes. On the flip side to that where your sat in the car it feels a lot more sideways than it ever really is.
 
Paulwirral said:
I'm guessing everyone here is under 30 and learnt to drive in cars with traction aids , I'm nearly 50 and if your cars loses traction in my world you say whoops there and continue on your way and don't give it a second thought .
Or if it's really bad go out and drift it on purpose :rofl:
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+1

Got a cracking response from the young guns too. so happy to back this up. :wink:

I don't often get the Zed out of the garage, when the roads are mucky, but the weather has been perfect, so we took her, to the Cotswolds, for a mini Winter tour, the past three days. The back has been breaking traction, every time I've pressed the loud pedal properly, in second. Absolute hoot. :D Best thing, with the LSD, is it's nice and progressive, so Mr's G didn't notice too much.

Do take care though and do get professional tuition, if you haven't already. It's the difference between, fear and fun, when the roads are like this. :thumbsup:

(From another over 50 :P )
 
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