Careful out there boys and girls

[Mr Tidy]

I'm another old git who grew up with RWD so breaking traction is something to enjoy not fear - probably why I had an orange light blinking at me all the time yesterday!
Of the 27 cars I've owned only 8 have been FWD and most of those were only stop-gaps.
That is one of the main reasons I seem to only look at BMW's these days.

 

[Bing]

The back has been breaking traction, every time I've pressed the loud pedal properly, in second. Absolute hoot. Best thing, with the LSD, is it's nice and progressive, so Mr's G didn't notice too much.

This. Sometimes a bit scary, but I love that squirm as the LSD works it's mechanical magic

A bit of driving tuition is something I'm after in the spring

 

[Paulwirral]

I spent my teens and early 20s racing on oval tracks so I may have a biased opinion of sideways driving and lack of traction

 

[Machine monkey]

I am 33 and love braking traction and a little sideways action. Pulled out of a junction yesterday and stayed sideways up the road through second gear left right left I have only had 2 RWD cars but your right it's to be enjoyed.

It can still brown your pants when your caught out!!!!

 

[Talksthetorque]

I'm 41 and learnt to drive in a Volvo 340 Standard practice was booting it off a wet roundabout getting oversteer, releasing the accelerator AND LETTING GO OF THE STEERING WHEEL, then a bit of power and catch the wheel again when it had self aligned.
Driving god - if you ignore the bit where I'm in me mam's Volvo

 

[Bing]

 

[pvr]

if you ignore the bit where I'm in me mam's Volvo

And not too old to get an overdue smack for abusing your mum's car

 

[rosskins]

Mr Tidy,

I totally agree and I also had a 323 (two of them actually) - long lost twin? Anyways, if there is a BM for snow, the 325ti is ok. The weight will help with grip especially if you turn off the old traction. There will be a bit of waddling but I live on a hill and bullet has always got me home, unlike 1 series and A3. Not even going to attempt zed in snow, this baby is having a trickle sleep waiting for the crisp blue frosty skies. With bobble hat and roof down of course and respect for the roads.

 

[Bing]

Wondering if I should stick the 25kg bag of sand in the garage in my boot... Used to do that in my last Z when I put winter wheels on, just a wee bit of extra weight over the rear axle... And useful as traction powder if I ever got stuck. Though I doubt I'll drive this one in snow with no winters.

 

[halifaxbantam]

Memories Bing...the bag of sand trick. First motor I owned was a Ford Escort Popular Plus in red, can even remember the reg - FJX 232S.

Massive hole next to the "not so loud pedal", which I filled & painted.

Fit a mono radio in it for our first motoring holiday to Devon...it broke on the M6 outside Birmingham, no music for a whole week, just talking to each other, or me just listening whilst she talked.

Proper winters then in a rear wheel drive car... ahhh memories I 'kin hated it

 

[rosskins]

A spade in the boot and a co-pilot to sit on the hood - this has helped me out a few times! Always carry a spade and a blanket.

 

[paulgs1000]

Ha, maybe I should have been more careful. My children (now all adults) remember Dad taking them out in the family Peugeot 505 Estate whenever the snow fell, to do 180s handbrake turns and even 360s using the power where we had the space. They always wanted to go out when it snowed and laughed whenever we had the back end slide round. They loved it and I'm sure that's why the kids love driving today and get great enjoyment from it.

We had a large open car park where I worked - I was always in first so whatever car I had, got the chance to play whenever it was wet frosty or best of all snowy - it was only much later that a colleague got to realise what all the circles were - couldn't believe she didn't know what had made the marks but there you go. . . .

Just as has been posted - when I was young, it was our entertainment to get out and enjoy the roads whenever the snow fell - of course our cars were probably worth a lot less and certainly had a lot less power so it all happened at lower speeds but that left you able to really let rip and great fun could be had (as well as experience gained). It stays with you and it makes you aware of what can happen and therefore drive with care and a certain amount of expectation. Especially important with the 3.0si I use now.

Have to say the roads have been so filthy in some cases this year that low temperatures have not been needed to get that traction light blinking - the roads have been disgraceful so awareness needed all year!

But with the power and capabilities of the Zed it makes sense to be cautious this time of year - it's not a time when you can use the Zed to it's potential so good post

 

[paulgs1000]

Just a thought . . . .when I had my MX5 it noticeably broke traction in the wet if I hadn't got a full or at least half full petrol tank - anyone else have the same happen?

 

[BMWZ4MC]

Just a thought . . . .when I had my MX5 it noticeably broke traction in the wet if I hadn't got a full or at least half full petrol tank - anyone else have the same happen?

My S2000 is much more lively under power when the fuel tank is nearly empty

 

[halifaxbantam]

Thing is Paul, you had to put petrol in to get the weight back up. You couldn't increase the weight any other way, because nothing would fit in the boot apart from a Kitkat.

 

[rosskins]

Paulgs1000, fab post. You have taken me back 25 years throwing my ma's fiat panda 850 around in the snow. Shize, oops. It wasn't me gov.

 

[Bing]

Just a thought . . . .when I had my MX5 it noticeably broke traction in the wet if I hadn't got a full or at least half full petrol tank - anyone else have the same happen?

My S2000 is much more lively under power when the fuel tank is nearly empty

Didn't realise you'd chopped the Beemer for a Honda - what colour ? You'll be easier to spot

...that'll be fun on ice and snow :!:

 

[buzyg]

I'm 41 and learnt to drive in a Volvo 340 Standard practice was booting it off a wet roundabout getting oversteer, releasing the accelerator AND LETTING GO OF THE STEERING WHEEL, then a bit of power and catch the wheel again when it had self aligned.
Driving god - if you ignore the bit where I'm in me mam's Volvo

I used to try that in my dads 850cc Fiat van. Got spotted by a mate of his one evening. Before I ever had a licence. He called me over, the next time he saw me and let me know, what would happen, if he spotted me again. Parent power, in 70's Liverpool, was way more potent than the modern way, in our wonderful over policed state. :wink:
(I never took his van out again, by the way, best to take life's lessons in and move on)

 

[Fast3000]

Wow some scary stories! Take care out there guys. I'm running a lower psi helps a bit!

 

[ben g]

Just a thought . . . .when I had my MX5 it noticeably broke traction in the wet if I hadn't got a full or at least half full petrol tank - anyone else have the same happen?

Mine broke traction this evening with almost a full tank and goodyear eagle f1 asym 2's on the rear. Missus wasn't best pleased but it was only a minor twitch which needed a little correcting. Nothing I hadn't already experienced in this car over the past 2 1/2 years.