C-Tek charging for E89

Papa P

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 Haslemere, Surrey: UK
Hi, Is it ok with a C-Tek 5 charger, to charge an E89 battery direct from the battery points as well as from the charge points under the bonnet?
 
Hi, short and simple answer, no. Only charge from under bonnet points. Can screw around with electrical stuff beyond my knowledge charging directly to battery afaik :thumbsup:
 
There are myriad opinions at the touch of the Search button on here.
Some say it's ok, most don't.
You will be bypassing the IBS if you connect directly. To my mind, that must be there for a reason, so I always connect under the bonnet.
If you find that the leads are a little short to reach the earth bolt on the RH inner wing, then you can connect the earth clip to the earth stud about 6 inches down on the inside edge of the LH inner wing. It's easy to spot as it has several other earths terminating there.
 
Argyll Andy said:
Hi, short and simple answer, no. Only charge from under bonnet points. Can screw around with electrical stuff beyond my knowledge charging directly to battery afaik :thumbsup:

+1 :thumbsup:
 
enuff_zed said:
If you find that the leads are a little short to reach the earth bolt on the RH inner wing, then you can connect the earth clip to the earth stud about 6 inches down on the inside edge of the LH inner wing. It's easy to spot as it has several other earths terminating there.
Where are you referring to, Martin, as I can't see anything obvious. I'm using my cheapy charger on the E89 which is only 2.5 amps so is taking too long on the driveway. I would like to use my cTek but leads are too short!
 
Pondrew said:
enuff_zed said:
If you find that the leads are a little short to reach the earth bolt on the RH inner wing, then you can connect the earth clip to the earth stud about 6 inches down on the inside edge of the LH inner wing. It's easy to spot as it has several other earths terminating there.
Where are you referring to, Martin, as I can't see anything obvious. I'm using my cheapy charger on the E89 which is only 2.5 amps so is taking too long on the driveway. I would like to use my cTek but leads are too short!
OK, hopefully these photos will make it clearer.
I took the earth clip off too, so you can see the bolt it fits on.
Also note the easy route out of the bonnet so you can lock it shut.
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I used the small connector leads with the eyelets and fitted them pernamently under the bonnet, my ctek has the extension lead and all I have to do is pull the rubber cap off and connect to the extension lead. No faffing about with the crocodile clips.20220210_200534.jpg
 

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Cheers Martin. I did see that but ruled it out as it is painted. I was also looking for green and yellow earth wires. Silly me forgetting that cars' wiring have absolutely no correlation to 'normal' wiring colours! :headbang:

What about one of the suspension top mount nuts/bolts? Easier to get to and are in contact with the chassis and not painted?
 
I used the same as Red Baron shows and have it hiding in the area where the hinge locates which allows me to connect it and bring the lead from the charger behind the bonnet by the door.
 
The negative can be attached to anything bolted to the body..I use the top strut bolts or in my case the lateral after market strut brace…
 

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Just to add my bit I've been using my C tek smart charger connected directly to my battery for the past 4 or 5 months with no issues at all so do what you wish with that info :rofl: :thumbsup:
 
The last owner of my car also connected his charger straight to the battery terminals with no issues. I did the same for a few weeks then after reading about the IBS I started charging through the points in the engine bay but my negative connection is a bolt on the top strut thing
 

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Here’s BMW’s words on the matter from TIS….


Notice! Charging and trickle charging of the battery

The battery may only be recharged with a battery charger that has been approved by BMW and that has a constant charging voltage of 14.8V.

If possible, the battery temperature should be between 15 °C and 25 °C during charging. Under these preconditions, the battery is adequately charged when the charge current drops below 2.5 amps.

If the battery is recharged at low temperatures, the charging procedure should not be ended until the charge current drops below 1.5 A.

On vehicles with IBS, recharging the battery directly at the battery terminals could lead to a misinterpretation of the battery condition and even unwanted Check Control messages or fault entries.

If the battery is recharged while it is installed, it must be recharged using the jump start terminal points, whenever jump start terminal points are provided in the engine compartment. Only then can you be sure that charging is correctly recognised by the vehicle electronics on vehicles with an intelligent battery sensor (IBS).
 
Isn't the reason for not connecting direct to the battery physical? That, in the confined space of the under-boot compartment, a spark from the trickler could ignite gas from the battery?
 
Busterboo said:
Isn't the reason for not connecting direct to the battery physical? That, in the confined space of the under-boot compartment, a spark from the trickler could ignite gas from the battery?

Buster......................
B21 said:
Here’s BMW’s words on the matter from TIS….


Notice! Charging and trickle charging of the battery

The battery may only be recharged with a battery charger that has been approved by BMW and that has a constant charging voltage of 14.8V.

If possible, the battery temperature should be between 15 °C and 25 °C during charging. Under these preconditions, the battery is adequately charged when the charge current drops below 2.5 amps.

If the battery is recharged at low temperatures, the charging procedure should not be ended until the charge current drops below 1.5 A.

On vehicles with IBS, recharging the battery directly at the battery terminals could lead to a misinterpretation of the battery condition and even unwanted Check Control messages or fault entries.

If the battery is recharged while it is installed, it must be recharged using the jump start terminal points, whenever jump start terminal points are provided in the engine compartment. Only then can you be sure that charging is correctly recognised by the vehicle electronics on vehicles with an intelligent battery sensor (IBS).
:roll:
 
Busterboo said:
Isn't the reason for not connecting direct to the battery physical? That, in the confined space of the under-boot compartment, a spark from the trickler could ignite gas from the battery?

That’s one of them, bmw specifically mention the ibs electronics as the main issue though :?
Rob
 
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