Machine monkey said:Going turbo is another option........................................
The website claims a 40bhp boost for 60 seconds (and then it has to recharge) - their own dyno's only show a peak gain of 10bhp-30bhp.stlymch said:Guys, perhaps you could also consider this instead of a big old heavy lump like the eaton:
http://www.phantomsuperchargers.com/
Looks quite promising to me, I've always wondered about replacing the exhaust gas driven turbine of a turbo with an electric motor.. now I don't need to wonder about it any more.
sk93 said:here's the pdf to the whole book.. damn good read
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4pk7ufpmexqpga/Maximum_boost.pdf
.Machine monkey said:After reading all this stuff about whats needed and then paying a guy we know nothing about. And could end up with some poop S/Cs on our cars. I am not saying his stuff isn't any good but its unknown.
I propose that we get a think tank going on this.... We need to determine what charger we need? And all the info about what size inter cooler bast way to connect it up and run pipes. Once we say have a design worked out i am happy to make the bits. What i am trying to suggest is a forum S/C cooperative???? So we can get the best system our talent allows at the best price.
The biggest problem i see is in the design of the system. Hopefully guidok and others with knowledge on this will be on board?? And then the BIGGEST problem getting someone with enough knowledge and tech know how to map the cars and make them safe so we dont fill the countries scrap yards with M54 engines.
What do you think forum doable????????????????????????????
LukeMace said:M50 inlet manifolds... Anyone know much about these? Will they fit our cars?
pokeybritches said:For a forum-designed supercharger, establish a plan of action and milestone, identify a lead and POC for each step, and a date each piece is due.
Some of the things you need to work through:
1. Type of supercharger - centrifugal, roots, twin screw
2. Power goal (influences intercooler requirements and cost)
3. Tuning - who?
4. Engines supported
5. Funding - will everyone pitch in for one member to create a prototype, and then later get the whole kit when risk of failure has subsided? What about others who refuse to help in the early stages, but want to purchase a kit later without taking any risk or helping with the R&D cost?
Sounds to me like if you really want to do this, interested parties should front a little bit of money for one user to take on the project. Expect the car to be down for 6 months as issues are sorted. The largest cost and potential dealbreaker is the tuning. I would start with reputable tuners first - AA, NickG, Evolve, etc.
The rest is easy - designing brackets and getting a company to machine them, off the shelf intercoolers and superchargers.
I'd start with a low boost kit first to get everything sorted, then a "stage 2" later when the quirks have been fixed.
Jonny essex said:Just buy a readymade one, week later its done!!!
Jonny essex said:Ironic....plus i like to upset sum of the more "Fragile" members :evil:willgill said:Why would a super charger blow up? Or were you being ironic?
Jonny essex said:Sim_Simma said:Lol i made a bet that someone would say this and you know wot nor do I, could be made reduntant soon but i always find a way :wink:Jonny essexespecially if o a readymade one said:Not everyone has loads of spare cash to throw about!
Macs one was £2500 and thats the one im after if i go with the M54 swap, £500 labour thats 3k for a kit that wont blow up and has a 2 year warrenty.
Haha that doesn't sound bad!
Although its still worth trying to make a cheaper kit imo, especially if they develop one for the M![]()