BMW M4 Prices

original guvnor said:
Mowflow said:
He's now gone for a Cayman GTS (until the Cayman GT4 order books open next year)
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That's not confirmed yet as far as I was aware? Opinion seems to be split on whether it is a GT4 or just a Cayman R again.
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Yes, he told me not to tell anyone :)

But I've got a big mouth. The salesman showed him the car on the system. He said its a homologation model as they want to compete in gt4. Supposedly a limited run and manual only. Book opens early next year but he's already left a deposit and took the GTS on a buy back deal while he waits.

Off to the 911 gts launch tomorrow night so I'll maybe try to prod this particular salesman for info
 
LeeZ4MR said:
Mowflow said:
He said this review summed up the M4 perfectly. I love the first line :rofl:
http://sniffpetrol.com/2014/10/17/a-week-with-a-bmw-m3/#.VHNC3L628g8
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I felt similar to that review with the old V8 model in that it was built more for a business manager who wanted a flashy car but didn't really care much for the actual driving bit and it seems they have just followed that mantra but even more so with the new one.

For all the old V8 M3`s faults though at least you could say that it had a nice engine and a competent chassis and it seems the new one has neither so its fairly easy to see why its not done that well in some group tests and some people don't rate it anymore.
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He had a manual e92 m3 as well and didn't like that either. However, he was far more critical of the m4 stating that the fake noise was actually one of the better aspects of the car.
 
Hmmm, haven't driven one, but how come a faster, more powerful, better handling and possibly better looking car is actually worse off, irrespective of the artificial sound.
Professional press hints that it only comes alive when you're on the limit...

... didn't they say that about the z4m/c aswell ?
 
Remember they said bad things about the recent M3 when it came out....

I think the M4 is a great car, and if it's £35K in 18 months, it would make a great purchase
 
original guvnor said:
Chris Harris has his say...

https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/drives-and-rides/chris-harris-everyone-beating-new-bmw-m3
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Chris Harris is on record saying that he preferred the C63 he ran as a daily to his old E92 M3 which I can easily understand, the sticking point though is that the V8 M3 had little torque but gripped pretty well so BMW have now given the new one tons of torque yet it cant put it on the road cleanly so from BMW`s view point they cant really win.

I would hate to be a car manufacturer because we all look for different things in a car and there isn't such a thing as a perfect car and that in itself is frustrating so how can car manufacturers ever please everyone.
 
So, there's 82 M4s listed on autotrader, only two had ceramic brakes, strangely enough they have been sold.

That means there are 80 cars out there without CBs, where braking has always been a track failing for M cars, why are so many being spec'd without them? Are they dealer spec'd cars?

Only three have sunroofs spec'd.

On the plus side, they are now down to £51K for early flimper spec ones :)
 
Sae said:
So, there's 82 M4s listed on autotrader, only two had ceramic brakes, strangely enough they have been sold.

That means there are 80 cars out there without CBs, where braking has always been a track failing for M cars, why are so many being spec'd without them? Are they dealer spec'd cars?
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You have hit the nail on the head because surely anyone that has experienced a (M) car knows that the brakes are made from chocolate well the two I have owned were and I have been lucky to have experienced seven BMW`s and none of them have had good brakes so I would have thought the option to spec Ceramic brakes would be a no brainer(expense aside)

Disclaimer.. I love BMW`s but they just don't put decent brakes on them which has always baffled me to be fair because the are great drivers cars and I like them big time but they always fall short in the braking department.
 
The most recent M cars (M5, M6, M3/4) are supposed to have much better steel brakes than previous M cars aren't they though Lee? I think the M4 standard brakes are 4 piston front and 2 piston rear. I've always thought the Z4M standard brakes are fine for fast road use without modification. It's when you start to use them on a track that their limitations start to become apparent.
 
original guvnor said:
The most recent M cars (M5, M6, M3/4) are supposed to have much better steel brakes than previous M cars aren't they though Lee? I think the M4 standard brakes are 4 piston front and 2 piston rear. I've always thought the Z4M standard brakes are fine for fast road use without modification. It's when you start to use them on a track that their limitations start to become apparent.
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Yes OG I do believe the latest batch of M cars have nailed the brakes from what I have read :thumbsup:
 
23% depreciation in 6 months is ridiculous. It would be interesting to see if they are the correct stats..

I normally account for 25% deduction in 1 year.
 
Stark said:
Now £49,995......£15K lost in 6 months....... :cry:
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Interesting...and it certainly doesn't seem to be as loved as much as the previous generations and I wonder if the engine is to blame or just whether buying tastes are changing a little with the M4 being more like a GT car than the earlier models, although the E92 was also more of a cruiser and that's when the transition started for me.
 
I havnt kept up too much with the latest cars but has it to do with the fact that the 335 engines are now so good and the styling differences with the Ms are now so minimal that people dont need the extra grunt (on the whole)?

If I were buying I'd be opting for a 420/428i M Sport which would be good enough for me..
 
bluestreak56 said:
I havnt kept up too much with the latest cars but has it to do with the fact that the 335 engines are now so good and the styling differences with the Ms are now so minimal that people dont need the extra grunt (on the whole)?

If I were buying I'd be opting for a 420/428i M Sport which would be good enough for me..
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You make a good point and I have seen a few 435i`s with some M performance parts on them and they do resemble the M4 quite a fair bit, I like the idea of a 428i in many ways because it is decent enough on fuel and offers good performance too.
 
I don't think the current model is depreciating any quicker than the previous generation did really. At the end of the day these cars find their ideal price in the market and £65k for a 3-series isn't it.
 
If you look at the last model that still is holding up pretty well value wise and I did think the launch of the new model would have had an impact on it but it hasn't really yet.
 
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