Slight technical hitch. Apologies to anyone who's wife was looking when they googled it.Zedebee said:Don’t make the mistake I just made by googling what FROT means :thumbsdown:
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Slight technical hitch. Apologies to anyone who's wife was looking when they googled it.Zedebee said:Don’t make the mistake I just made by googling what FROT means :thumbsdown:
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got it thanksenuff_zed said:Slight technical hitch. Apologies to anyone who's wife was looking when they googled it.Zedebee said:Don’t make the mistake I just made by googling what FROT means :thumbsdown:
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SonnyA85 said:I can't find the post now because i looked through about 30+ threads but one guy switched his out after 40K miles for B4's as they were knackered. He drove the car 30K miles before selling it to a mate who then also drove it for 30K miles before selling it on and they were still okay. So he reckons B4's do around 100K miles and that is normal for a shock absorber. OEM however are crap and the numerous reports of them on here failing after 40-60K but they have no idea how long they have been knackered for because the only way to know is to take them off the car so they could have been knackered for years.

Exactly! Hardly need to remove them from the car to tell.Rockhopper said:If you've driven one with knackered shocks and then one with good shocks the difference is night and day. Even my Mrs could tell the difference.

My E89 is a bit of a garage queen, so doesn't go out in the winter. Wifey's E85 2.5i auto lives outside and gets used almost daily.Gregory_tolson said:do you people daily these cars over in europe? I wouldnt be caught dead driving these cars in the winter. Pretty sure itll take me like 5+ years to even put 30,000 more miles on my z4.
Average temps for me in the winter are below freezing and when it snows we get usually over a foot, and the snow usually sticks around most of the winter. these things dont do snow and ice well with being RWD lolRockhopper said:Yes, I drive mine all year round.
You've obviously not grown up with Ford Capris.Gregory_tolson said:Average temps for me in the winter are below freezing and when it snows we get usually over a foot, and the snow usually sticks around most of the winter. these things dont do snow and ice well with being RWD lolRockhopper said:Yes, I drive mine all year round.
I have a Ford Fusion as my daily. Think they call it the mondeo for you. My wife has a Jeep Wranglerenuff_zed said:You've obviously not grown up with Ford Capris.Gregory_tolson said:Average temps for me in the winter are below freezing and when it snows we get usually over a foot, and the snow usually sticks around most of the winter. these things dont do snow and ice well with being RWD lolRockhopper said:Yes, I drive mine all year round.![]()
However, in my neck of the woods we hardly ever get snow, though we do get lots of rain that then freezes overnight.
Overall unless up in the North of the UK I don't we suffer with extreme weather too much.
But of course there is a little bit of common sense involved.
With an X-Drive 1-series on the drive it's a no-brainer if the weather is crap.
enuff_zed said:OK, please ignore certain inputs. :roll:kis said:What about 900 132? AUTODOC
Front end, re-use your rubber dust covers and order just the shorter bump stops Autodoc Febi Bilstein Item 103962).
Rear end, buy the kit including the covers. (Autodoc Febi Bilstein Item number 103828)
True-Blue said:SonnyA85 said:I can't find the post now because i looked through about 30+ threads but one guy switched his out after 40K miles for B4's as they were knackered. He drove the car 30K miles before selling it to a mate who then also drove it for 30K miles before selling it on and they were still okay. So he reckons B4's do around 100K miles and that is normal for a shock absorber. OEM however are crap and the numerous reports of them on here failing after 40-60K but they have no idea how long they have been knackered for because the only way to know is to take them off the car so they could have been knackered for years.
So;
Some bloke on the internet (who you don’t know) replaced his knackered Sachs with B4’s drove it for 30k miles, then sold it to another bloke (who you don’t know) who then drove it for a further 30k miles, and he then sold it to a third bloke (who you don’t know) and the shocks where still fine….
Despite the fact that the third bloke didn’t remove the B4’s to test them? But with Sachs shocks you have to remove them to see if they’re knackered or not?
Is that about the size of it :?
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SonnyA85 said:True-Blue said:SonnyA85 said:I can't find the post now because i looked through about 30+ threads but one guy switched his out after 40K miles for B4's as they were knackered. He drove the car 30K miles before selling it to a mate who then also drove it for 30K miles before selling it on and they were still okay. So he reckons B4's do around 100K miles and that is normal for a shock absorber. OEM however are crap and the numerous reports of them on here failing after 40-60K but they have no idea how long they have been knackered for because the only way to know is to take them off the car so they could have been knackered for years.
So;
Some bloke on the internet (who you don’t know) replaced his knackered Sachs with B4’s drove it for 30k miles, then sold it to another bloke (who you don’t know) who then drove it for a further 30k miles, and he then sold it to a third bloke (who you don’t know) and the shocks where still fine….
Despite the fact that the third bloke didn’t remove the B4’s to test them? But with Sachs shocks you have to remove them to see if they’re knackered or not?
Is that about the size of it :?
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Lets just skip over the numerous posts in that thread I linked and the professional mechanic within who worked on literally hundreds of them and said they are crap.
Zedebee said:Let’s face it, there aren’t many Z4 owners (there are some, granted) who will replace their shocks and then drive another 40-60k miles, so what does it matter?
It then comes down to cost, ride quality, aesthetics and the fact that non-OEM suspension is a declarable mod for insurance purposes.
New top mounts surely?Dr. Zed said:I was not aware this ad had created such a discussion, nor did I realise this was still alive. Apologies for those that have had an input. It is very much appreciated.
Currently I'm opting for B4's with Msport springs (lesjofor). I'll be replacing the bump stops too with the M sport one which is shorter. Everything else will be placed back in (bar the bolts etc that need to be replaced when doing this sort of job).
Dr. Zed said:I was not aware this ad had created such a discussion, nor did I realise this was still alive. Apologies for those that have had an input. It is very much appreciated.
Currently I'm opting for B4's with Msport springs (lesjofor). I'll be replacing the bump stops too with the M sport one which is shorter. Everything else will be placed back in (bar the bolts etc that need to be replaced when doing this sort of job).