Pbondar said:Many people writing on this subject would disagree about bass being behind you... for example this wordy and excellent article.. https://www.thompsonsltd.co.uk/car-audio-explained.html
Today all recordings are made in stereo (save DVD movie sound tracks)... this is a front biased setup for all frequencies...in a perfect world both speakers would be point sources generating all frequencies in some form of equilateral triangle with the listener at one point..
You can place a sub woofer away from the centre as the sound travels in a non directional basis..so the human ears/brain cannot resolve that... the higher the frequency the better the chance to determine it’s a location..
When it comes to the subwoofer it’s a struggle...yes a large ported box in the boot would work...but with a full metal bulkhead between the cabin and boot the subwoofer will struggle to get through unlike the normal cardboard type separator in a saloon car between boot and cabin...
You could fabricate a ported subwoofer to rest across the rear ‘parcel’ shelf behind the seats...AFAIK I’m not aware of anyone who has successfully done that..
The existing subwoofer locations are hermetically sealed enclosures...just very small..about 5-10 litres..
Having a fully tweakable DSP with the ability to do time/phase/frequency sampling and adjusting I could get everything about perfect...great and precise soundstage, good smooth sound..but as I said the subwoofers contribute little..in fact I can switch them off and the difference in perceived playback is negligible..
The same playback on my mid range 3.1 audio / media system with a nice ported active woofer in my ‘snug’ shows that extended base can be had..just not in an E89...again AFAIK and IMHO..
Did you read the article you’ve highlighted....?? Sub bass in an Mr2 and MX5 sound brilliant behind you. Same goes for the E89. How many pro installers have you seen that ignore the rear of the car and cram everything into the front...? I haven’t seen any unless it’s been specified by the customer. A couple of years ago I sat in a 3 series from Source sounds with just an under seat sub, quality mids and tweets in the standard location up front albeit with lots of soundproofing behind them, the standard head unit running through a digital processor and an amp to suit and it sounded unbelievable....the best system I’ve ever heard. Very simple, done correctly.
I can’t understand why someone with a drop top car thinks a stereo upgrade is a waste of time, then goes ahead and does it.... :scratchhead: The Burmester in the Porsche Boxster sounds fantastic with the roof down, easily replicated in the E89 with some thought and thinking outside the box.