Anyone Using Vista?

I have Vista on a brand new PC with lots of RAM and CPU but i can't help but hate the damn OS. It is so annoying to use (constant security pop ups etc) and is so poorly designed from a user experience interface that it drives you insane.

I also have a Mac and even though its significantly older than the Vista system it is an absolute pleasure to use, with Mac OS allowing you to get things done quickly rather than wasting time with all the security pop up banners and dog's breakfast interface of vista etc....

It's a real shame that after that many years in development that's what they came up with

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sp3ctre said:
mmm, did you used to have a freebsd avatar on another forum? Was it invisionboard? I just seem to remember a "yal" from about 5 or 6 years ago?!

I think I used the FreeBSD avatar on Z4um. Anywhere else, I was Huk.

Hmmm, come to think about it, I might have been Yal on invisionboard, since that is what my other forums were.
 
I installed Vista on my Tablet PC, and it is great. The only problem I get is for the graphics dirver, which doesn't like Aero when the tablet screen is upside down when in dual screen mode. :roll:

For the few things that didn't work (old bespoke programs and alike), I installed a copy of XP on a Virtual PC (Using MS Virtual PC 2007 is a free download at the moment) :D
 
Suse Linux Enterprize Desktop 10 runs faster on my 5 year old home laptop (P3 256MB Ram) than my new dual core AMD 64-bit work desktop PC with 1GB Ram.

SLED even found drivers during the install that :evil: Microsoft :evil: never did, and it's FREE :thumbsup:
 
Just been on the phone to Microshaft trying to get my already activated copy of Vista activated. Seems there's yet another bug or "Microshaft Feature" that hasn't been fixed.

Was told by female Ethnic Minority that I would have to phone their Technical Support and they would tell me how much it would cost to get the problem fixed.

What a ******* nightmare that's going to be for the **** that answers the phone on Monday morning. I have no patience with these people and will rip them apart on the phone.

Excellent thinking by Microshaft though,

1. Make something with loads of problems.
2. When customer phones to query their problem, direct them to Tech Support.
3. Charge them for fixing a problem we already know about.

At the end of the day they make money out of third rate software that isn't good enough for the job stated and it's the end user left paying to fix their problems.

The best part was that the ethnic minority on the other end of the phone couldn't cope with the fact that what she was asking me to click on wasn't even there. "Please click on Yes to Activate" when the screen was showing no such thing.

Roll on SP1 as it'll be interesting to see how big this upgrade will be. 200mb? 400mb? 600mb? 1gb? I'm going for between 400 - 600mb.
 
I must say, I have a machine upstairs (I work on the 2 laptops mainly) with 1gig of ram and it will hardly start with Vista on it... so tempted to bang XP back on it!

Other option is buy more RAM, but it's DDR, so I'd need to buy outdated RAM... don't really want to buy new mb and cpu at the moment, so that machine is in limbo a bit... think it's gonna be a roll back to XP (well re-install) until I get the funds to upgrade the thing to such a spec that will run vista! Piece of crap! :thumbsdown:
 
Interesting, I've been running Vista Ultimate RTM since the day it came out for MSDN Subscribers (November last year) and had no problems.

I have a Dell Latitude D820 laptop with 2GB RAM and 512MB NVidia Quadro graphics card and it handles the 1900x1200 resolution I use and Aero without problems.

The security warnings, yes they are boring, but if Microsoft didn't do that a lot of muppets would still double click any .exe that they got in their mailbox or from some dodgy web site and say that "they didn't know it was a virus". I suppose it's one of the things people will have to get used to, even though you can disable User Account Control (UAC) and these security warnings by changing the settings in the Local Security Policy admin tool.

BTW, Vista SP1 is scheduled for the first half of 2008 and will have a completely revamped kernel, including many of the improvements they are developing for Windows Server 2008 that comes out in Q1'08.
 
sp3ctre said:
That's the key, I think... any less and it's dire. I just don't see what it actually gives us, for all this bloat.

Vista gives you a lot under the hood actually.

It has a new driver model in which many drivers now run in user mode instead of kernel mode, thus making the system more stable and preventing bad drivers from crashing your machine.

It also provides you with a better security model. It has arguably better multimedia features, has several enhancements in application crash recovery, has better process memory isolation, file-system encryption in some versions, enhanced indexing and search, better content organization and the list goes on. If you add to that the .NET Framework 3.0 that is part of the OS now it is actually a good product.

Unfortunately, it will take some time for application developers to make full use of these new features, but when they do people will realise that it actually is packed with new technology.

Also what people tend to forget is that Windows in general covers much more than PCs and laptops as it supports tablet PCs, media centers, embedded PCs, servers and etc, so it's not really fair to compare against OSX.
 
tehdarkstar said:
Vista gives you a lot under the hood actually.

It has a new driver model in which many drivers now run in user mode instead of kernel mode, thus making the system more stable and preventing bad drivers from crashing your machine.

It also provides you with a better security model. It has arguably better multimedia features, has several enhancements in application crash recovery, has better process memory isolation, file-system encryption in some versions, enhanced indexing and search, better content organization and the list goes on. If you add to that the .NET Framework 3.0 that is part of the OS now it is actually a good product.

Unfortunately, it will take some time for application developers to make full use of these new features, but when they do people will realise that it actually is packed with new technology.

Also what people tend to forget is that Windows in general covers much more than PCs and laptops as it supports tablet PCs, media centers, embedded PCs, servers and etc, so it's not really fair to compare against OSX.

Very interesting... can I ask what background you are from? I work for a software house myself... guess I should be more up to speed than I am, on it ;)
 
I'm a software architect in .NET 3.0/3.5 myself and I have contributed in the development of .NET 2.0 and Visual Studio 2005 with the Microsoft development teams in Redmond. I also collaborate with Microsoft development teams in Cambridge, that's why I try to keep up to speed with their technologies. :)

The rest is just because I'm a big geek and spend too much time on cars and computers... :oops:
 
tehdarkstar said:
I'm a software architect in .NET 3.0/3.5 myself and I have contributed in the development of .NET 2.0 and Visual Studio 2005 with the Microsoft development teams in Redmond. I also collaborate with Microsoft development teams in Cambridge, that's why I try to keep up to speed with their technologies. :)

The rest is just because I'm a big geek and spend too much time on cars and computers... :oops:

WOW.. :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Nice one fella... would love to chat over a beer sometime :D
 
Vista is unfinished. I might go back to XP as it's so frustrating.

Here's 67 mostly cosmetic problems http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/05/28/65-more-windows-vista-mistakes/

I do understand and know that it's so called more stable and reliable but it will cause so many problems for Joe Public that unless their well versed and understand Windows then the general home user will have major problems.

Stable? The OS shouldn't be crashing or hanging in the first place. They've had enough time to get these things sorted out and still there's problems straight out of the box.

We wouldn't put up with a new car breaking down every two or three days or was unable to steer due to technical issues that should have been resolved when the car was being designed. Yet we put up with this rubbish from software manufacturers.
 
I always wait for at least SP1 to come out to fix the stability problems. Was an MCSE years ago, gave up on trying to fix others problems :chairfight: .
STILL waiting for the 64bit systems to get mainstream so that there are drivers available (that work). Quite content to sit here with XP for now.
 
I work for a software company and Vista is nothing but trouble. Luckily, our software works on it pretty well.

If you look on the Dell site, they've even re-started selling PCs with XP as an option due to the Vista problems and customers unwilling to use that OS. XP pro 64 bit is the way to go!...at least until there's a service pack for vista.
 
That video gets 1000 stars from me. I love my Mac.

If you need to troubleshoot Vista, just start with reformatting, it's easier. Be careful though, if you think about touching vista during install it'll crash and you have to start over!
 
God, I love my Vista..same as someone else here, have had some printing and recognizing issues, but other then that I love it. 'Course, I'm a computer dummy :?
 
I love vista because it's made my dual core pc as slow as a 10 year old power mac. I installed it and worked at it non-stop for 2 days before I put xp back on. It's really bad if you have a Lenovo Thinkpad and have all their thinkvantage software on it. No lie, it takes my laptop 5 minutes to boot with a 7200 rpm drive and 2 gig of ram.

By the way vista users, what is your computer's experience rating? My laptop is a 4 and my desktop was 3.2.
 
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