Anyone else worried about Lewis?

stevo///m3 said:
He does have the minor temporary headache of a £3m+ tax dodge on his plane at the mo, however, according to the Beeb...much as I’m a Lewis fan (now, but not when he first came into F1), he does need to address this, even if it does just mean suing his advisers and donate the damages to a charity...
Stevo

I'm sure he'll manage fine 😂 he has his fingers in all sorts of pies.

All these tax dodges are usually the fault of the accountant/advisors anyway, so you cn hardly blame the guy for doing it.

We'd all be doing the same if we could get away with it...
 
ben g said:
stevo///m3 said:
He does have the minor temporary headache of a £3m+ tax dodge on his plane at the mo, however, according to the Beeb...much as I’m a Lewis fan (now, but not when he first came into F1), he does need to address this, even if it does just mean suing his advisers and donate the damages to a charity...
Stevo

I'm sure he'll manage fine 😂 he has his fingers in all sorts of pies.

All these tax dodges are usually the fault of the accountant/advisors anyway, so you cn hardly blame the guy for doing it.

We'd all be doing the same if we could get away with it...

:rofl: :rofl:

Ring ring....”Hello, dodgy dealings for you speaking”

“Yo bro, where’s my money man”

“Ah sorry, can’t tell you that Lewis”

“Why not man”?

“I just can’t son, ok”

“Oh ok, that’s fine, I’m happy with that”

Crackle crackle....“Hello, is that Mr dodgy”?

“Excuse me Lewis one moment we seem to have a crossed line...oh hello Apple, how’s tricks”?

“Oh fine thanks, where’s our money”?

“Ah sorry Apple, I can’t tell you that”

“Why not”?

“Just can’t Ok”

“Oh ok, that’s fine”

“Hey man, that’s what the man said to me to man..”

“Oh Hello Mr Hamilton, yes, oh well, doesn’t matter does it, I’m sure it’s all ok, who needs to know where our huge profits sit anyway, this guy sounds very fair doesn’t he”

“Sure thing man, if he says it’s cool, it’s cool. Well I’m jetting off on hols in my big red plane, hopefully this guy will give me some pocket money for sweets”

“Enjoy Lewis, congrats on 4 titles, I’m sure we can hook up at some point and give you cart loads of money to show off our phones”

“Cool man, just give this guy....whoever he is, the money, he’ll deal with it, as he says, we don’t need to know do we”

“Oi ya set ‘o bastrds...give allllll yer fookin money to Africa ya capitalist feckers...dig fookin deep yer rich pair ‘o shites...how fookin dare ya keep all dis money and there be starving feckers in Africa ya bastards.....oi you there..man...where’s all my fookin money ya fecker”?

“Ah mr Geldoff...don’t worry, it’s all safe along with Bono’s”

“Der fook you doin’ with it anyways ya fecker”?

“Ah have no worry Sir Bob, just leave it with us ok”

“To be sure dats foine...I don’t need to feckin know shite anyways...hey Lewis...feck off, yer shite, yer man mad Max will kick yer arse yer fecker...ba bye nooo”



Nope...none of them know anything....
 
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:
 
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:

That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x
 
maxman said:
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:

That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x

If it's legal ,Then it's legal. Close the loop holes and stop digging for stories. Simples.
 
My understanding is that the issue is with the % claim rather than the whole amount. From a reporting point of view it sounds better to state £3.3 million in VAT, whilst it reads to me that the only disagreement is with the 85% business / 15% private use split. No idea what the private use really is, but if that is 30% then the VAT advantage is just a percentage of the 3.3 million.

It is the same with any business asset where there is an agreement on the % private use.
 
Calling a spade a spade, I think its just another example of greed. These people have access to very expensive advice that Joe public doesn't and they take full advantage of it. Regardless of what the law says, I and millions of others expect these people to act with integrity which the majority seem unable to do. Here's a test : lets suppose every taxpayer decided to take advantage of these loopholes. The impact on the total tax take would be totally devastating and the loophole would have to be closed. Why then should these select few be immune? Given that the majority of folk will choose to avoid tax if they can the primary fault lies with those who make the rules and turn a blind eye to these practices.
 
pvr said:
My understanding is that the issue is with the % claim rather than the whole amount. From a reporting point of view it sounds better to state £3.3 million in VAT, whilst it reads to me that the only disagreement is with the 85% business / 15% private use split. No idea what the private use really is, but if that is 30% then the VAT advantage is just a percentage of the 3.3 million.

It is the same with any business asset where there is an agreement on the % private use.

My thought on the matter (having read none of the specifics) and I guess what the accountant was basing the split on, is that with Lewis' level of celebrity almost all of his travel is going to be business related, even if not for his "day job" his "fun" trips are still "work" in his role as brand ambassadors or representation for his other sponsors.

Basically any time there could be a camera pointed at him he is working
 
maxman said:
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:

That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x

Jesus christ. You're so bitter, it's unreal :lol:

As said above, it's just a loop hole used by many to avoid taxes.

If you own a business, you're going to put as much through that business as possible to save some money. It's common sense.
 
ben g said:
maxman said:
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:

That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x

Jesus christ. You're so bitter, it's unreal :lol:

As said above, it's just a loop hole used by many to avoid taxes.

If you own a business, you're going to put as much through that business as possible to save some money. It's common sense.

Also, a benefit cheat takes money from a defined pot that he has not earned and was never his in the first place. In this case, Hamilton just does not give as much money to the state - but it was his money in the first place anyway.
 
maxman said:
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:

That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x

The Queen is tax dodging too so she'll probably still give him the knighthood!
 
philbo909 said:
maxman said:
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:

That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x

The Queen is tax dodging too so she'll probably still give him the knighthood!

I had forgotten she was in the plot,he can go back on the list with all the other dodgers. :roll:
Its no wonder there is no money in the kitty for schools, police , hospitals , pensions etc :cry:
 
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank

Buzyg - I don't wish to be pedantic but your spelling mislead me. This post started discussing Lewis' sexuality. Next I glanced at your post and understood you were speculating about what you might do with his 'penis' in the bank..... :o
 
Newbers said:
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank

Buzyg - I don't wish to be pedantic but your spelling mislead me. This post started discussing Lewis' sexuality. Next I glanced at your post and understood you were speculating about what you might do with his 'penis' in the bank..... :o

Yep! I did actually spot that one. But I left it in, in the sure knowledge it would cause amusement. :D
 
35 years on my sense of humour hasn't really developed from the third form...
 
I’m not that bothered that he has allegedly swindled the VAT man; all the others have too and a fair few besides those that have been named. I think the best outcome - for Lewis and the public at large - is that he pays what he owes (15% or 35% of the £3.3m, whatever it turns out to be...) and donates a big number to a charity. Some will see that as trying to cover up something he did “wrong”. Maybe better still he sues his advisers and donates the proceeds to charity. Anyway, I’m musing :D hope it all works out fine for all concerned!
Stevo
 
maxman said:
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:

That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x

He is not claiming money that doesn't belong to him, he is keeping the money that does
 
ben g said:
maxman said:
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:

That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x

Jesus christ. You're so bitter, it's unreal :lol:

As said above, it's just a loop hole used by many to avoid taxes.

If you own a business, you're going to put as much through that business as possible to save some money. It's common sense.

Just because its legal doesn't mean its right.
There are too many celebrities/rich folk not paying their share.
Yes they are supposed to pay a higher rate than us normal people but they know that before they earn it and so should pay it.
 
maxman said:
philbo909 said:
maxman said:
That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x

The Queen is tax dodging too so she'll probably still give him the knighthood!

I had forgotten she was in the plot,he can go back on the list with all the other dodgers. :roll:
Its no wonder there is no money in the kitty for schools, police , hospitals , pensions etc :cry:

I think the queen is getting an unfair bagging . The head of state for the Cayman Islands has a wadge of cash in the Cayman Islands , is that really that shocking ?
 
Nanu said:
maxman said:
buzyg said:
Well for sure if I had his pennis in the bank, I too would try to give as little as possible back to he tax man. If there is a legal loop whole, then your daft not to take advantage of it. The government are no more likely to spend it wisely that Lewis. :wink:

That's his knighthood gone down the plug hole ,he's no better than a benefit cheat in that respect in claiming money that does not belong to him. :x

He is not claiming money that doesn't belong to him, he is keeping the money that does
According to the report on the BBC he didn't pay the vat that was due on a plane he bought in the IOM,the pathetic
bit is the amount owed would be small change to him.
What would be the outcome if everybody in the uk decided from tomorrow they would stop paying vat and income tax ,nobody likes paying tax but in a civilised society it's one of life's chores.
 
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