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Z4 Beemer

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 Glasgow
Looking for some advice... it came to my attention recently when I was clearing out the loft, that the electrical wiring for all the ceiling lights is a bit of a mess. :? :(

Basically there are 10 ceiling lights (in some places groups of recessed halogen down-lighters) and 10 switches and all the cables appear to run to one central place in the loft. All the lights are supplied from a single feed from the fuse box (one trip switch), and I'm actually concerned with how things currently look - see photo.

I'm planning to speak to a few electricians, but can anyone suggest what could be done here? Could it simply be a case of just getting some sort of proper junction box to contain all the cables?

Any advice or thoughts appreciated. :thumbsup:

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well at least you have joint blocks on there...

some of the wiring that was pulled out of our roof during the re-wire was held/joined together with sellotape :o

but yes I'd be worried...
 
Ten ceiling lights at an average 100 watts = 1kW approx 4 amps; so a 5 amp fuse or 6 amp mcb is perfect.
This is what you need Clicky thing.

p.s. You will also need some green/yellow sleeving for those earth wires and take them outside the box. :thumbsup:
 
I'm no sparky, but that needs some attention :o

The guy we bought our house from was a builder - he'd built a lovely extension with a garage, additional master bedroom and en suite... A few weeks in an the 'old' bathroom light went with a bang and smoke, so I took it apart and discovered he'd wired the entire 'kin lighting circuit for the upstairs of the extension - 14 20w halogen bulbs plus extractor fan - directly into the light fitting :x

Got a decent junction box and sorted it out, but scared the hell out of me...
 
I once rented a house that had been appallingly 'restored' using dodgy eastern european labour by a tosser who ended up on Homes From Hell for his various antics. In just one small room he had no less than 20 x 50w downlighters (in a house that was 320 years old and built of wattle and daub and timber and leaked like a fecking sieve. He was eventually bankrupted and shipped out to live in Hungary and the house repossessed.
 
MalcZ4 said:
Ten ceiling lights at an average 100 watts = 1kW approx 4 amps; so a 5 amp fuse or 6 amp mcb is perfect.
This is what you need Clicky thing.

p.s. You will also need some green/yellow sleeving for those earth wires and take them outside the box. :thumbsup:
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Malcz4..why would u advise taking the earth wires outside the j/box?
Not what i would do/reccomend :thumbsdown: ALL wiring connections should be enclosed.
 
Z4 Beemer said:
Looking for some advice... it came to my attention recently when I was clearing out the loft, that the electrical wiring for all the ceiling lights is a bit of a mess. :? :(

Basically there are 10 ceiling lights (in some places groups of recessed halogen down-lighters) and 10 switches and all the cables appear to run to one central place in the loft. All the lights are supplied from a single feed from the fuse box (one trip switch), and I'm actually concerned with how things currently look - see photo.

I'm planning to speak to a few electricians, but can anyone suggest what could be done here? Could it simply be a case of just getting some sort of proper junction box to contain all the cables?

Any advice or thoughts appreciated. :thumbsup:

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Certainly messy,and needs tidying up.
As malcz4 said,u will need an Ashley 701 (plastic)junction box,or similar,and i would advise renewing the connector strips;for a complete strip(5/15amp).

Will pm u :thumbsup:
 
Thanks for all this info chaps, and for the PM Craig. :thumbsup:

Taz, I don't think I would attempt the work myself!
 
Hi, my hubby started his career as a sparky, just showed him pic, which he declared a potential fire hazard :fuelfire: , and recommends just spend the pennies on getting a professional out to sort it out pronto! You need to make sure that they provide a junction box with terminals on a fixed terminal rail, bells all the circuits out, tests them and produces a diagram that is left in the junction box.

hope that this helps! :D
 
andysat said:
Taz x said:
if your not part p registered are you allowed to do work on your own electrics?
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I think you are right mate-we are lucky we can replace bulbs ourselves!
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don't tell anybody but in the past i have done my own
 
I do all my own wiring as I prefer a standard that is higher than what other "professionals" often seem to deliver. The costs I save with not paying an electrician, I spend on getting the highest quality components.

I wire to European standards as well so use more cabling, but don't have the issues associated with ring mains.
 
Adamski said:
andysat said:
Taz x said:
don't tell anybody but in the past i have done my own
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:rofl:
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What happens if you get caught? Who would catch you?
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Likely get a fine from the council and make house harder to sell without Part-P certificate. You CAN do it yourself but you should get the council to come check afterwards.....
 
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