Alpina Market Watch
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MefiEcosse
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#17 Has resurfaced on Autotrader after being on sale last year at £24k
Mileage still 44k and price with new seller of £19'995.
Mileage still 44k and price with new seller of £19'995.
Currently one on auction on eBay. Any guesses to the final selling price?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/55-BMW-ALPINA-3-3-Z4-ROADSTER-S-LEATHER-CLIMATE-LOW-MILES-RARE-CAR/273866619664?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180816085401%26meid%3D61ebf3206e9843299d25ccafe48487c2%26pid%3D100970%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D273866619664%26itm%3D273866619664&_trksid=p2481888.c100970.m5481&_trkparms=pageci%3A5a0f1845-837d-11e9-9749-74dbd180dfa2%7Cparentrq%3A0cfc7b0b16b0a887dd29b4c4ffd66c43%7Ciid%3A1
Edit - just seen this is already being discussed on the main E85/86 board.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/55-BMW-ALPINA-3-3-Z4-ROADSTER-S-LEATHER-CLIMATE-LOW-MILES-RARE-CAR/273866619664?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180816085401%26meid%3D61ebf3206e9843299d25ccafe48487c2%26pid%3D100970%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D273866619664%26itm%3D273866619664&_trksid=p2481888.c100970.m5481&_trkparms=pageci%3A5a0f1845-837d-11e9-9749-74dbd180dfa2%7Cparentrq%3A0cfc7b0b16b0a887dd29b4c4ffd66c43%7Ciid%3A1
Edit - just seen this is already being discussed on the main E85/86 board.
motoroller
Member
Sandman77 said:
Read the reviews of carswithnoreservereading on pistonheads and other places. It's really not the place for a car like this!
MefiEcosse
Senior member
Aus_Pol said:
Certainly a strange way to sell, I wouldn't be bidding unless I had been able to inspect the car first.
MefiEcosse
Senior member
jayhay548 said:
135 might be more realistic.
motoroller
Member
MefiEcosse said:
I can't find it on how-many-left, does anyone have concrete numbers on this?
motoroller said:
Perry would have the best idea I'd imagine. I'm not sure how you'd find out really as not many go to main dealers for servicing, not everyone is on here or on the Alpina register. You may be able to ask DLVA how many Alpina Roadsters have been taxed within the last 12 months, under the 'freedom of information' act.
I can vouch that #019 is alive and well and still in my possession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2MxKaxs9p4
PerryGunn
Lifer
I respectfully submit that they haven't got a bloody clue what they're on about....jayhay548 said:
We've had 43 unique cars for sale spotted for this thread alone over the last couple of years and I have details of well over 100 that I know are still in 'active' use and have heard of only a handful that have either been written off or exported to mainland Europe
If I had to hazard an 'educated guess' I'd put the number that are still in the UK, either on-road or SORN'd, at over 150
Sadly this was Brian (Zedwheels) car. #105
https://www.thealpinaregister.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=23637
A friend of mine's partner works for Sytner and she took it home one evening for him to try. He was thorughly disappointed in the state of it and how much needed doing. They offered it to him (staff discounted) at £8k. He offered them £5k and they refused. I then heard this week that they achieved £6.6k at auction having sorted a few issues on it prior to sale.
This well maintained Alpina roadster does have a couple of minor cosmetic marks but nothing that detracts from its impressive, sporty appearance. There are light bramble scratches along the near side that will MOP out, a small scuff on the near side corner of the front bumper by the number plate, some stone-chipping to the rear edges of the lower plastic sill trims/ covers just ahead of both rear wheels, a couple of light surface scratches on the off side of the boot lid that will flat and polish out, some light surface scratches on the centre section of the rear bumper where items have been loaded in and out of the boot, a small scratch on the near side corner of the rear bumper, the lower section of the front bumper is quite chippy, the near side headlight doesn't fit as close to the bumper as the off side headlight so may some adjusting/ fettling (see last photos) and on start-up the car show minus 450 miles to inspection service,
He also said the door handle didnt work and the dash lit up like a Xmas tree.
Such a shame as I know Brian had it tip-top 2 years ago and it was his Pride & Joy
https://www.thealpinaregister.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=23637
A friend of mine's partner works for Sytner and she took it home one evening for him to try. He was thorughly disappointed in the state of it and how much needed doing. They offered it to him (staff discounted) at £8k. He offered them £5k and they refused. I then heard this week that they achieved £6.6k at auction having sorted a few issues on it prior to sale.
This well maintained Alpina roadster does have a couple of minor cosmetic marks but nothing that detracts from its impressive, sporty appearance. There are light bramble scratches along the near side that will MOP out, a small scuff on the near side corner of the front bumper by the number plate, some stone-chipping to the rear edges of the lower plastic sill trims/ covers just ahead of both rear wheels, a couple of light surface scratches on the off side of the boot lid that will flat and polish out, some light surface scratches on the centre section of the rear bumper where items have been loaded in and out of the boot, a small scratch on the near side corner of the rear bumper, the lower section of the front bumper is quite chippy, the near side headlight doesn't fit as close to the bumper as the off side headlight so may some adjusting/ fettling (see last photos) and on start-up the car show minus 450 miles to inspection service,
He also said the door handle didnt work and the dash lit up like a Xmas tree.
Such a shame as I know Brian had it tip-top 2 years ago and it was his Pride & Joy
Number5 said:Sadly this was Brian (Zedwheels) car. #105
https://www.thealpinaregister.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=23637
A friend of mine's partner works for Sytner and she took it home one evening for him to try. He was thorughly disappointed in the state of it and how much needed doing. They offered it to him (staff discounted) at £8k. He offered them £5k and they refused. I then heard this week that they achieved £6.6k at auction have sorted a few issues on it prior to sale.
This well maintained Alpina roadster does have a couple of minor cosmetic marks but nothing that detracts from its impressive, sporty appearance. There are light bramble scratches along the near side that will MOP out, a small scuff on the near side corner of the front bumper by the number plate, some stone-chipping to the rear edges of the lower plastic sill trims/ covers just ahead of both rear wheels, a couple of light surface scratches on the off side of the boot lid that will flat and polish out, some light surface scratches on the centre section of the rear bumper where items have been loaded in and out of the boot, a small scratch on the near side corner of the rear bumper, the lower section of the front bumper is quite chippy, the near side headlight doesn't fit as close to the bumper as the off side headlight so may some adjusting/ fettling (see last photos) and on start-up the car show minus 450 miles to inspection service,
He also said the door handle didnt work and the dash lit up like a Xmas tree.
Such a shame as I know Brian had it tip-top 2 years ago and it was his Pride & Joy
Shame indeed ,Brian cherished that car, when he sold it the condition was excellent
,A chap off zorg bought it last i heard,sad to see it go downhill so quick
Had it been an auto i wudda bought it off him no problem.
M
Number5 said:Sadly this was Brian (Zedwheels) car. #105
https://www.thealpinaregister.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=23637
A friend of mine's partner works for Sytner and she took it home one evening for him to try. He was thorughly disappointed in the state of it and how much needed doing. They offered it to him (staff discounted) at £8k. He offered them £5k and they refused. I then heard this week that they achieved £6.6k at auction having sorted a few issues on it prior to sale.
This well maintained Alpina roadster does have a couple of minor cosmetic marks but nothing that detracts from its impressive, sporty appearance. There are light bramble scratches along the near side that will MOP out, a small scuff on the near side corner of the front bumper by the number plate, some stone-chipping to the rear edges of the lower plastic sill trims/ covers just ahead of both rear wheels, a couple of light surface scratches on the off side of the boot lid that will flat and polish out, some light surface scratches on the centre section of the rear bumper where items have been loaded in and out of the boot, a small scratch on the near side corner of the rear bumper, the lower section of the front bumper is quite chippy, the near side headlight doesn't fit as close to the bumper as the off side headlight so may some adjusting/ fettling (see last photos) and on start-up the car show minus 450 miles to inspection service,
He also said the door handle didnt work and the dash lit up like a Xmas tree.
Such a shame as I know Brian had it tip-top 2 years ago and it was his Pride & Joy
This car was also well maintained with the zorg owner, there was a lot that needed doing when he bought it . My understanding is Brian just liked to poddle when he owned it. Also the HG went and was replaced very recently (diagnosed by MrVanos), It does also have an ABS issue that's been intermittent. So I know this car has had 3/4K spent on it and does need another 3/4K spent. All the shocks are tired along with the bushes. I've personally driven this car and worked on it, hopefully someone gives it a clean bit of health.
One mans tip top is another man's average.
Shame indeed ,Brian cherished that car, when he sold it the condition was excellent
,A chap off zorg bought it last i heard,sad to see it go downhill so quick
Had it been an auto i wudda bought it off him no problem.
M
I am that chap. Just to set the record straight here.
The door handle didnt work correctly when I purchased the car and I never got around to sorting it.
The electronic steering was faulty when I bought it and I gave up trying to sort it.
The only lights on the dash when it left me was a ABS light and Syntners were aware and accepted the car with this fault even though I was prepared to get the front N/S sensor replaced.
The stone chipped front bumper (which was replaced before I purchased ther car) was, by advice of a local body shop, poorly resprayed in their opinion.
Under my ownership the following (necessary work) was carried out.
New thermostat
New battery
New pulleys and belts
CCV replaced
Main vacuum hose replaced
New front disks and pads
Head Gasket replaced
As for the body work, I did a little over 3k in the car over 2 years, with the exception of the front valance the body work was in the same condition as when I bought it, it needed mopping then and it still needed mopping when I sold it. There was NO scapes or damage, the car has sat outside in a compound at the BMW dealers for over 2 months (it never sat outside during my ownership nor the previous owners) I can only imagine the state its in or whats hit it.
As for servicing, a few months before it left me it had a full service including plugs, gearbox and diff oils.
You can be assured the car left me in better condition than when I recieved it.
In those 2 years I spent over £3000 on the car and decided to call it a day as it needed far more spent on it, and I just didnt like it enough to do it.
Just to add I purchased the car over the phone untried and untested and only seen once at a meet, at my own risk. This post is not in any way a dig or complaint about the previous owner, just a defense of myself from people who are not in possession of the facts and therefore are not in a position to judge or make ill-informed comment.
BTW shiny paint does NOT make a car excellent!
Hearsay: Definition: noun unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge:
,A chap off zorg bought it last i heard,sad to see it go downhill so quick
Had it been an auto i wudda bought it off him no problem.
M
I am that chap. Just to set the record straight here.
The door handle didnt work correctly when I purchased the car and I never got around to sorting it.
The electronic steering was faulty when I bought it and I gave up trying to sort it.
The only lights on the dash when it left me was a ABS light and Syntners were aware and accepted the car with this fault even though I was prepared to get the front N/S sensor replaced.
The stone chipped front bumper (which was replaced before I purchased ther car) was, by advice of a local body shop, poorly resprayed in their opinion.
Under my ownership the following (necessary work) was carried out.
New thermostat
New battery
New pulleys and belts
CCV replaced
Main vacuum hose replaced
New front disks and pads
Head Gasket replaced
As for the body work, I did a little over 3k in the car over 2 years, with the exception of the front valance the body work was in the same condition as when I bought it, it needed mopping then and it still needed mopping when I sold it. There was NO scapes or damage, the car has sat outside in a compound at the BMW dealers for over 2 months (it never sat outside during my ownership nor the previous owners) I can only imagine the state its in or whats hit it.
As for servicing, a few months before it left me it had a full service including plugs, gearbox and diff oils.
You can be assured the car left me in better condition than when I recieved it.
In those 2 years I spent over £3000 on the car and decided to call it a day as it needed far more spent on it, and I just didnt like it enough to do it.
Just to add I purchased the car over the phone untried and untested and only seen once at a meet, at my own risk. This post is not in any way a dig or complaint about the previous owner, just a defense of myself from people who are not in possession of the facts and therefore are not in a position to judge or make ill-informed comment.
BTW shiny paint does NOT make a car excellent!
Hearsay: Definition: noun unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge:
PerryGunn
Lifer
A two-owner car and the lowest mileage example I've seen available in a very, very, very long time
Build #: 191
Reg Plate: BM02 BEE
Exterior Colour: Sterling Grey
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: £22,500
Mileage: 11,352
Location: Leicestershire, private seller
URL of advert: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/alpina/other-models/bmw-alpina-roadster-3-4-lux-z4--2005/9953527
Build #: 191
Reg Plate: BM02 BEE
Exterior Colour: Sterling Grey
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: £22,500
Mileage: 11,352
Location: Leicestershire, private seller
URL of advert: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/alpina/other-models/bmw-alpina-roadster-3-4-lux-z4--2005/9953527
Nodzed said:Shame indeed ,Brian cherished that car, when he sold it the condition was excellent
,A chap off zorg bought it last i heard,sad to see it go downhill so quick
Had it been an auto i wudda bought it off him no problem.
M
I am that chap. Just to set the record straight here.
The door handle didnt work correctly when I purchased the car and I never got around to sorting it.
The electronic steering was faulty when I bought it and I gave up trying to sort it.
The only lights on the dash when it left me was a ABS light and Syntners were aware and accepted the car with this fault even though I was prepared to get the front N/S sensor replaced.
The stone chipped front bumper (which was replaced before I purchased ther car) was, by advice of a local body shop, poorly resprayed in their opinion.
Under my ownership the following (necessary work) was carried out.
New thermostat
New battery
New pulleys and belts
CCV replaced
Main vacuum hose replaced
New front disks and pads
Head Gasket replaced
As for the body work, I did a little over 3k in the car over 2 years, with the exception of the front valance the body work was in the same condition as when I bought it, it needed mopping then and it still needed mopping when I sold it. There was NO scapes or damage, the car has sat outside in a compound at the BMW dealers for over 2 months (it never sat outside during my ownership nor the previous owners) I can only imagine the state its in or whats hit it.
As for servicing, a few months before it left me it had a full service including plugs, gearbox and diff oils.
You can be assured the car left me in better condition than when I recieved it.
In those 2 years I spent over £3000 on the car and decided to call it a day as it needed far more spent on it, and I just didnt like it enough to do it.
WOW, Reading this, i'm sorry N but it does hurt to think that you were unhappy after buying the car. I do understand that you meant it in a defensive manner but it implies that I didn't look after it or even sold it to you knowing it to be faulty! I had no idea it had a faulty handle or steering. During the time I had it, I too had paid my indy to replace all the discs, the pads, shocks, top mounts and springs, and belts.
I also had a new front splitter fitted and sprayed by a local garage because the original had some damage from a kerb, I cant comment on the standard of paintwork because I'm no expert but it looked good to me. I also have no experience in working on cars so everything I had done was by a local Indy and paid for.
When you came to pick up the car I did say take it out for a test drive but you declined, and to be fair I wouldn't have objected to you having it for a few days before deciding, after all I had to wait for the 1 series to be delivered to Cardiff from another depot which took 3 weeks. If you wasn't happy with it I wouldn't have refused you a full refund, I was only getting the same value that Sytners offered against the 1 series.
I did watch some of your posts after you had it and got quite envious to see you out and about in it on days out and even doing some track days, something I would have liked to have done myself but never got around to it.
We have been part of the same forum for some years and I can say in support of your post above that you are a serious Zed enthusiast and careful owner, so I was as surprised by what was said about the cars condition as anyone. Maybe you didn't mean it but your comments do insinuate that I mis-sold you a car that I had owned and cherished for 7 years.
Sorry N that you were so disappointed with your purchase.