Advice on PX

jaz4

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 derbyshire uk
Just a bit of my experience when car trading

Do your home work
Check BMW used car website and list a few same year and similar specification cars to get a feel of the price range. Do this a few times a month or so before to see how the cars sell and if prices drop. Also do this for your PX as this will also give a base franchised dealer price. Take this with you as ammo.

Look on Glasses car guide and Parkers guide for the new car and your PX. Glasses charge for a detailed price which includes mileage and options.

For your PX Get a few valuations first, can be via glasses with a dealer link or webuyanycar.com for a worst case cash deal. Better to have a few quick dealer prices first.

The minimum deal should be PX v franchised price.

Condition of the PX is important, must have minimum 5mm tread on all tyres 6 months MOT and service, perfect rims and paint work. If its due a service, worn pads and tyres then do not expect full px.

If the screen price of the new car is lower than franchised price value do not expect to get full PX value. You must consider the cost to change. Reason why Franchised price minus PX should be the aim/ minimum cost to change. If the ratio is too high then walk, if its lower then your getting a deal.

EG Franchised price £32000 PX estimate £17,500 = estimated cost to change £14.5K
REAL DEAL Screen price £25000 PX £16500 = £8.5K UP 6K "in the net". I could have said I go 6K more for my PX.

Take the information with you make a list of other items such as service inclusive or paint work protection or whatever may sway you at the end of the negotiations. All can add a few 100 to the deal.

The first PX value they give you is always a chancer, so that's when you bring out the proof and what you seriously are looking at, soon should get at least 1K more. You get the rubbish "oh it is a basic model", or if its fully loaded "options are worthless only makes the car easier to sell".

If you are not happy and there is another zd for sale for similar price walk and go and see that one.

For me I have always travelled a fair distance to get the best zd on the bmw webs site so have never walked from the final negotiation, saying that the last one took 2 hrs to bat out but they knew I was serious so

Time of year is also interesting as the screen price does seem to be slightly inflated compared to franchised price in the summer.

Dealers targets and dates when new reg comes out such as March / Sept influence things a bit.

New model also hits prices both for the new shape with prices holding for a few years then suddenly drop/ normalise, with the old model suffering a few K.
 
Some reasonable advice if u have to, though my understanding of PX'ing was:

1. You may think you win, but the salesman's just letting you think u got a fab deal, he's still making a decent cut & u just don't know it.

2. You have a real dog of a car & you don't want the aggro associated with a private sale

3. You have too much money to care & don't mind taking the hit

4. You want the new shiney thing now & can't wait
 
Jembo Unless you lease you end up with a car to sell. For me I never fancied owning 2 cars at the same time.

Obviously when the px becomes quite old 5+ years then private sales become easier due to lower price

It sort of worries me trying selling private, most people want to purchase from bmw that comes with a 12 month wrty (assumes you sell after 3 years like I do). I could add the extended wrty so thats up to £500 hit.

So lets say I could sell my old 10 plate 3.0 for 19K, I will make up to 1.5K profit when I sell. Take off advertising, messing with punters and interest lost on 17K thats needed to get the new car all starts to hit into the profit. I wonder how many people will have 19K cash to give me, and it assumes it wont bounce and I loose the car...

Now the dealer has my 10 plate and he has put 12 months wty on it and its up for 17990 so he is making 990 minus wry, so 450. I think for 450 I will let him have it, and that assumes he sells at that price.

point 4 is a key thing. DONT get pulled into thinking you will loose it. There will always be another one in next few months.

I could try to sell it first but then I wont have a car and may force point 4.
 
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