Advanced Driver training / accreditation..

[B21]

So after over 50 years, over 50 cars and bikes and over a million miles thought it was time for some refresher training..

Inadvertently signed up for both the ROSPA version as well as the IAM version..so doing both.

Done both my initial assessments..copy of ROSPA one attached ..

So far only thing I’ve found out new was the difference between a Pelican and Puffin crossing…

Too early to comment on the pros and cons of each course..but they so far feel very different..

Format is broadly similar..a number of 60-90 minute sessions with ‘corrective’ training and ‘polish’ then a pre test dummy test then a formal test usually with a Police Standards examiner..

What could possibly go wrong..?

 

[enuff_zed]

Oh no!
One step closer to a cardigan with leather elbow patches and a need to go train spotting.
:roll:

 

[1536Z4]

Inadvertently signed up for both the ROSPA version as well as the IAM version..so doing both.

Probably worth doing to get your insurance down on your mega modified car oke: :rofl:

 

[BeeEmm]

The following comment is not about your driving, but is aimed at the Assessor.

Too many 'goods' for me. The feedback should be much better. Awareness, anticipation, mirror use and planning to me is weak and needs more comment. I am talking as an Assessor. If this person worked for me, I would have them assessed. Good for you for having the assessment, but I feel the assessor did not want to offend your driving.

 

[Pondrew]

https://www.s-v-c.co.uk/products/770-container-badge-bar

NICE!

 

[Mr Tidy]

I admire you for signing up, but you really should have done it in the Yellow Peril!

I must admit the only thing I have done since passing my test in 1976 is an ARDS test around 1999, but at least I passed.

Sadly circumstances prevented me from ever needing a Competition license.

 

[B21]

I admire you for signing up, but you really should have done it in the Yellow Peril!

I must admit the only thing I have done since passing my test in 1976 is an ARDS test around 1999, but at least I passed.

Sadly circumstances prevented me from ever needing a Competition license.

I did my IAM assessment this morning in the Yellow Peril as I had collected a two inch clout nail in my Volvo on my previous ROSPA assessment by sitting in the gutters on right hand bends.. :headbang:

Sadly couldn’t release the demons.. :tumbleweed: :rofl:

 

[B21]

Oh no!
One step closer to a cardigan with leather elbow patches and a need to go train spotting.
:roll:

I always wanted a trilby, camel hair overcoat and pipe

 

[B21]

Inadvertently signed up for both the ROSPA version as well as the IAM version..so doing both.

Probably worth doing to get your insurance down on your mega modified car oke: :rofl:

Cost of the courses and fuel far outweighs any insurance saving… :thumbsdown:

 

[B21]

The following comment is not about your driving, but is aimed at the Assessor.

Too many 'goods' for me. The feedback should be much better. Awareness, anticipation, mirror use and planning to me is weak and needs more comment. I am talking as an Assessor. If this person worked for me, I would have them assessed. Good for you for having the assessment, but I feel the assessor did not want to offend your driving.

The role of the assessor in this case (as I understand it) is to baseline the candidate..over the next 6/8/10/n iterations the ‘polish’ happens..

 

[pvr]

Feed the wheel? What is that about, thought that was for learners only and once you could drive you could use the proper way.

I did my advanced in NL though so continental differences will apply

 

[Pondrew]

It's threads like this when I wish I wasn't on Peter's ignore list. But I am, so never mind!

 

[MikeyH]

It's threads like this when I wish I wasn't on Peter's ignore list. But I am, so never mind!

Oh dear, why would anyone put you on their ignore list oke: :rofl:

 

[Pondrew]

Oh dear, why would anyone put you on their ignore list

No idea, mate, but I can't ask him (for obvious reasons)! :lol: :lol:

Peter and I have very 'different' ideas. I am OK with that but he isn't. :roll:

 

[ronk]

I knew an observer with the IAM - His driving skills were lacking - that’s an understatement!

His driving skills were best described as scary :rofl:

 

[sp3ctre]

Feed the wheel? What is that about, thought that was for learners only and once you could drive you could use the proper way.

I did my advanced in NL though so continental differences will apply

As soon as I saw that I basically wrote the whole course off as a bull***t tick box exercise designed to earn assessors money!

 

[Scubaregs]

What do wheels eat exactly?

 

[TitanTim]

Same, I admire anyone who wants to advance their driving skills, although the biggest skill needed these days is self survival considering the standard of driving in this country.

I was taught to drive by my dad who was a an advanced police driving instructor so glad I passed my test first time. Passed in 1982 and remember him letting me loose on the police skid pan, great fun,



Think I would dread taking the test these days, would probably fail the theory

Tim.

 

[ronk]

1966 I did my driving test - I had ten lessons and passed
I’m glad I did as the lessons cost me £1 -2s -6d
(£1-12.5p) :rofl:

 

[B21]

A few points to feed the debate..

The purpose of this syllabus is to take a wide variety of would be drivers, often with less experience and less academic skills to a point where they can consistently and safely drive often heavily loaded, differing vehicles at a rate of progress for long periods of time that they and most others could not do without the training.

By definition instructors / tutors themselves will have varying levels of innate skills and expertise.

From my personal viewpoint some of the aspects of such a standardised course I will use to a greater or lesser extent.

What I have found on the dozens of group runs I’ve attended over the last 7 years is that many of us show a marked deterioration in personal performance when asked to travel quickly over a prolonged period..illustrating in part the lack of a systematic approach to driving.

I’ve seen many cases of poor judgement, failure to make adequate progress and lack of consideration for other road users amongst this group

This type of training helps address that issue.

FWIW ..

Of the two tutors I went out..in their respective demonstrations of how they would drive the same route they were chalk n cheese..

Both made it clear there are times and places where this ‘simple’ standardised approach does not apply..but most if those are not normal driving conditions..

One was clearly mechanical in his approach..the other very fluid and drove the route at speeds that I would feel uncomfortable at in certain places..

The people doing these courses and training are not paid for their work..

I’ll let you know how it develops..

The syllabus has changed markedly as has say professional pilot training to reflect human factors as probably the major single factor in safety..