A Wax and Sealant Tests

On the Detailing World forum, there is an ongoing test of waxes and sealants. Here are the threads..

Waxes: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=76435&highlight=sealant+test

Sealants: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=76933
 
Wondermike said:
Is it just me or are most of the products the same?

If there was ever a thread to support the point of "don't bother with polish and wax" it's that one... looks like it made naff all difference.

Maybe a horse box was a poor choice of thing to polish, I dunno
 
It takes time to apply wax, but overall it saves me time - as next few times I come to wash the car it is so much easier, and water sheets off - not needing so much drying.

It does look good if you take time to prep.
 
Hmm it wasn't so much the waxing itself, just the fact that they all look the same once applied, and all apart from a few are wearing equally well. How would you choose between them all.

I use Swissvax Saphir on mine and it does make a huge difference to washing, the dirt just falls off (unlike my wheels which are all pitted and munted already).

This thread is linked to in the original one Shipkiller posted http://www.autopia.org/forum/detailing-product-discussion/103205-7-wax-sealant-durability-shootout-muliple-pics.html

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Now you got me thinking!!!! I'm gonna make a Z4-forum pattern on my bonnet, so next time it rains it will show up LOL!
 
Maybe I should offer to let them polish the bonnet of my Jeep so it can have a proper water run off test.....

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Mattt said:
It takes time to apply wax, but overall it saves me time - as next few times I come to wash the car it is so much easier, and water sheets off - not needing so much drying.

It does look good if you take time to prep.

Agreed makes washing so much easier and looks superb just done my car over the last few days clayed polished sealed and waxed going to pop on one more coat of wax today weather permitting and she will look awesome and be protected for winter.
 
I started off with my brand new car and washed it with dawn dish soap to remove all wax, then used clay bar followed by Zaino 3 step sealant kit putting on at least 6 total coats. I wanted to put on a clear bra for the nose of the hood and bumper so I stopped the Zaino 2 feet from the nose of the car by marking it with blue tape. I was expecting the paint to really shine after the Zaino. Guess what? I could not tell the difference between the zaino'd paint and the untreated paint. They both looked the same. Since the car was new there where no micro scratches, so the paint was very shiny.

I installed the clear bra a few weeks later, then waited 30 days and zaino'd the clear bra.. It is now 1 year later and the water still beads like I just waxed it. Bird $hit and bugs rinses right off, these new synthetic polymer sealants are like a slipery teflon coating for your paint. I highly recommend them. Wax is old school, it protects, but doesn't last very long.
 
Beyond the packaging and marketing hype products get all this should be considered and carefully placed onto the Zen level.

Zaino is a great product (I've used them for 10+ years) for those that:
a) don't work on the exterior of their car much (did I read 1 year on yours pungo?) but want some level of protection and
b) like the Saran Wrap look that Zaino is famous for.

Meguiar's NXT will give the same look at half the price but just like Zaino will last forever. Wouldn't you love to see Sal Zaino and Barry Meguiar in an Extreme Fight Match?

Wax? What grade and percentage? With poly (synthetic) sealant or not? Old school, by that you must be referring to stuff like Turtle Wax and the like.

Car color? I've tested over a dozen different synthetic/natural protectants on my Sapphire Black Z4. Zaino was good but not the best. My point is you must match up the car's paint/color/owner's OCD (or not) and many other factors with a product that satisfies all, or most, aspects of exterior car care.

Once there, then you have an opportunity to evaluate the "Zen Factor".

pungo, where in the States are you located?
 
20ducks said:
Wax? What grade and percentage? With poly (synthetic) sealant or not? Old school, by that you must be referring to stuff like Turtle Wax and the like.
pungo, where in the States are you located?

By old school, I was referring to carnauba wax. I was using some Mothers which didn't last very long. I like my car to look good, but don't want to spend time waxing it every couple of months.

I also tried some Menzerna FMJ on my truck which has held up really well, almost one year.

I live in Maryland and park in the garage, which really helps the finish last much longer.
 
pungo the old school (Turtle Wax, Kit, etc.) used a very small percentage of carnauba in their products. They also used a lesser grade carnauba, fast forward to today and you have all sorts of percentages and grades used in the production process. Add to that various sealants and you have a mix of products that vary from totally extreme and sublime to the laughable. Zymol e.g., in the US is not the same Zymol made in Europe. In fact, Turtle Wax makes the US version and it is barely a whisper of the real stuff. So what you see isn't necessarily what you get. I was a firm believer of the synthetic products for years. Klasse and Zaino products filled my storage cabinet. That was until I bought a Z4 with black paint. Then I noticed that there was something lacking. I tried a dozen different high grade carnauba products, all had okay results. Okay meaning that the usual features were there but none had a snap. Zaino looked like the saran wrap/plastic shine that I mentioned before. I tried many combinations with products both synthetic and natural. Then I was given a new product called Wolfgang Fusion Concours. This is a high grade carnauba wax...a very high grade. Preparation is the key to any car care treatment so I when the extra mile with the prep work and then applied the Wolfgang wax. It is a wipe on/ wipe off wax, I applied with a Porter Cable. The results were stunning. Not only did I have a shiny polished car, the shine had a depth and a snap I've yet to see from another product. I was impressed enough to endorse this for our Z4 black exterior painted vehicles. I use the product on a regular basis (I did the same for Zaino) on my cars because I enjoy keeping my cars looking and ready for a judged competition because they are judged all the time: by me. Long lasting protectants are products perfectly suited for the driver that only occasionally polished their car and that is were a product like Zaino is a perfect fit. For me, however, I demand something that stands out from the rest.
 
With ducks on this one. I have tested various products on the 3 cars I have, and found that different colours / paints require different products. On my Paprika Red Golf Clipper (1993), the Swissol wax works great and gives the colour a great look and depth. Applying the same wax on my green X5 gives a poor result. Paint looks ok, but lacks shine. depth and also only lasts about 3 weeks with the wax on it.

Menzerna FMJ on the other hand, works great on the X5 and lasts 3 months easily.

I don't think there is a "one product fits all" around, so you have to test various products depending on the colour of the car you have.
 
Ducks is right on the money when he says that prep is the key.

August 22/23rd, I prepped, polished and waxed my car for the upcoming trip to HC08.

When I did my car, after all the prep, I put a coat of Meguiar's NXT on, then two coats of Pinnacle Signature Series II Carnauba on the car.

I still have not had to do anything to the car except use Pinnacle Carnauba Quick Detailer every time I wash the car.
 
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