A different roof problem
- Thread starter enuff_zed
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Attleborough, Norfolk
enuff_zed said:Hi Rob,Smartbear said:enuff_zed said:
No guarantees with Smartbear diagnostic advice but your issue does sound different from most e85 roof faults & i know this relay could potentially be the cause, pics were of my car but the e85 uses similar technology so worth trying as they’re not that expensive.
If it doesn’t work send it to my receptionist @ Smartbear Towers
Rob
The issue is I can't find it!
According to realoem there are two lilac roof relays behind the glove box.
The only other possible option I can see is the blue DME relay in the engine bay, but I'm loath to mess with that on a whim.
Roof Relay 1.PNG
Roof Relay 2.PNG
DME Relay.PNG
V difficult to find you need to be head down in the footwell, looking behind the fuse box up toward the gm5 module
Yes Stuart, I know the roof relays are there, and Barry can get me those to swap out.bigwinn said:enuff_zed said:Hi Rob,Smartbear said:No guarantees with Smartbear diagnostic advice but your issue does sound different from most e85 roof faults & i know this relay could potentially be the cause, pics were of my car but the e85 uses similar technology so worth trying as they’re not that expensive.
If it doesn’t work send it to my receptionist @ Smartbear Towers
Rob
The issue is I can't find it!
According to realoem there are two lilac roof relays behind the glove box.
The only other possible option I can see is the blue DME relay in the engine bay, but I'm loath to mess with that on a whim.
Roof Relay 1.PNG
Roof Relay 2.PNG
DME Relay.PNG
V difficult to find you need to be head down in the footwell, looking behind the fuse box up toward the gm5 module
It's the actual existence of the mythical Terminal 30 relay I'm doubting a little now?
No sign of it on realoem that I can find?
(Bearing in mind I'm engines and airframes, not electrickery)
[ref]Number5[/ref], there are several different part numbers for the roof module.
Realoem does say they are all compatible, but I thought I'd just check with you first.
Plan is to swap the two relays and the module at the same time. No messing about, as it's an intermittent fault, and if I'm having to wait ages to confirm it, I don't want to do that three times over.
To confirm, the car is an 04-plate 2.2i.
Cheers.
Realoem does say they are all compatible, but I thought I'd just check with you first.
Plan is to swap the two relays and the module at the same time. No messing about, as it's an intermittent fault, and if I'm having to wait ages to confirm it, I don't want to do that three times over.
To confirm, the car is an 04-plate 2.2i.
Cheers.
enuff_zed said:
I understand from a time saving point of view, but I’d only want to make one change at a time and identify the faulty part.
If you PM me your address I’ll post you a roof module to try. If it solves it we’ll sort something out, if not, just post it back to me.
Here I am in need of advice again. Thought I'd keep it all together on this one thread.
This morning I finally completed moving what had been a fully working roof motor into the boot.
Went to test it and won't move.
Front unlocks, motor runs, but no movement at all. Red light flashes.
Microswitch definitely working ok.
Manual release plunger checked in case I'd disturbed it. All good and moving freely.
Only previous slight issue it had was a tendency to clunk down the last inch or two when I closed it.
So I'm wondering if the oil level was marginal and now I've slightly changed the angle it wont work?
So, all you experts, does the level look low?
If so, how to top it up, and what with please?
I am aware the photo shows the manual release lever removed. I can guarantee that's not my problem though, just when I took the pic.
This morning I finally completed moving what had been a fully working roof motor into the boot.
Went to test it and won't move.
Front unlocks, motor runs, but no movement at all. Red light flashes.
Microswitch definitely working ok.
Manual release plunger checked in case I'd disturbed it. All good and moving freely.
Only previous slight issue it had was a tendency to clunk down the last inch or two when I closed it.
So I'm wondering if the oil level was marginal and now I've slightly changed the angle it wont work?
So, all you experts, does the level look low?
If so, how to top it up, and what with please?
I am aware the photo shows the manual release lever removed. I can guarantee that's not my problem though, just when I took the pic.
Finland
There’s a plus marking on the side of the white oil reservoir. Normally the fluid level should be between the lower and the upper edge the marking. I placed my pump in a 45 deg tilt too and had to top up from the plug in the end of the reservoir, filled about half of the reservoir without adverse effects.
Thanks, that's what I'm needing to do too.DMike said:
I discovered that this motor has been replaced at some point, and I'm assuming by taking the roof off.
The casing is dated November 06 and the car is May 04.
The pump is as new and even the insulation was new and unmarked.
The hydraulic pipes were taped securely to the very bottom of the casing using thick blue insulation tape, wrapped around about a dozen times. Was a beggar to remove as nothing would budge and I was worried about cutting the pipes while trying to cut the tape.
That's in addition to the miles of tape wound from top to bottom of the entire casing and the thick gloopy sealant between the upper and lower halves.
I suspect that what has happened is, they've fitted a new pump and rebuilt the whole thing without giving any thought to the fluid that was needed to refill the pipes. Luckily for them, just enough fluid remained to operate the roof as the pump sits nearly vertical.
Now I've moved it to an angle in the boot, the fluid is not adequately covering the ports.
It's been an interesting experience and I'm hoping the next one will turn out to be a lot easier.
Wondering why my arm was wet, then discovering it was the blood from my skinned elbow, soaking through my sleeve, was not the highlight of my weekend!
Oh and I still haven't been able to work out why sometime it won't lower with the engine running!